Trivia Would the world be a better place if it was run by religion?

[plhbg1]

Answer #1:
We tried that.

It was called The Dark Ages for a good reason.

It still exists in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Republican America.

Answer #2:
Look at Saudi Arabia, it’s run by a religion and you tell me, is it a better place?

Answer #3:
Dear GOD no. We know how this plays out, as we have this little thing called “history”.

When Christian religion had de facto political power, what did we get? The Dark Ages. Witch hunts. Crusades. Torquemada. Torture, death, thought police.

We can see the direction the inbred States in the US are going: Same same.

Islam? ISIS, Taliban…

Religion should never, EVER have a say in politics. If you want to build a wall, build it between the church and government. And make it hundreds of meters high and really, really think. And electrify it.

Answer #4:
That was tried during many centuries of Christian totalitarianism, terror and torture during long dark centuries known as the “dark ages", many genocidal crusades, including the Christian crusade of the Third Reich. Not forgetting the 300+ years of inquisition, the current totalitarianism in Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and regions of the USA.

RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING. The antidote to that vile poison is proving to be education and free, peaceful godless predominantly non-religious secular democracy.

How about you guys?

 

[MrJohnD]

"The antidote to that vile poison is proving to be education and free, peaceful godless predominantly non-religious secular democracy."

That might work or not. Hindi komo hindi nag-work 'yung isang bagay ay magwo-work na 'yung alternative. Hindi lang naman religions ang dahilan ng mga nabanggit sa thread, maraming factors. It is not just about the religions but the very nature of man, having feelings and emotions, unlimited wants, trying to obtain specific things, or goals/ambitions (Power, Influence, Worldly Desires).

Humans are not perfect, they have flaws, may religion man o wala. So, ang sagot ko sa "Would the world be a better place if it was run by religion?" ay mangyayari lang 'yan kung "better" din ang lahat ng tao. Don't expect people to do something good or perfect if they themselves are not perfect.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

These answers are very flawed and privilidged views. While secularism is an indicator of a country's economic prosperity, this does not mean religion is objectively bad for a country.

Countries that strongly tend to religion typically arises from a tyrannical reign, wether through dictatorship, war or corruption.

We can use chemotherapy as an analogy. Chemo will hurt a healthy body. But we can't just say chemo is bad, if the body has cancer. Stopping chemo to a cancer patient will allow the cancer to spread. But looking from the outside, a cancer patient who is prescribed lower and lower dose of chemo is a good sign that s/he will survive cancer. Religion is like chemotherapy. It has its bad effects, but not necessarily objectively bad. It is simply a what people have to combat tyranny.

So, really, the people who wrote the comments in the original post, we can bet that they were born in priveledge. They probably NEVER experienced poverty, never witnessed very corrupt politics, never obligated to fight in a war, and never experienced to starve.

 

[plhbg1]

"The antidote to that vile poison is proving to be education and free, peaceful godless predominantly non-religious secular democracy."

That might work or not. Hindi komo hindi nag-work 'yung isang bagay ay magwo-work na 'yung alternative.

i think yung point ng commenters is that democracy is better than religion instead of being the best or something that cannot fail

These answers are very flawed and privilidged views. While secularism is an indicator of a country's economic prosperity, this does not mean religion is objectively bad for a country.

yung answers kasi nila is rooted on what happened in the past, they are not suggesting religion is bad but they were just describing what happened in the past

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

yung answers kasi nila is rooted on what happened in the past, they are not suggesting religion is bad but they were just describing what happened in the past

Yes I get that. Pero we are also ignoring the past when religion was ripped-away from a country or a culture like Nazi Germany and Mao China. These are even more horrible and you would know if you are not cherry-picking history that agrees with the notion.

 

[plhbg1]

Yes I get that. Pero we are also ignoring the past when religion was ripped-away from a country or a culture like Nazi Germany and Mao China. These are even more horrible and you would know if you are not cherry-picking history that agrees with the notion.

this answers the question: would the world be a better place if it is ruled by something other than religion

yung thread kasi is not about religion being replaced by something but it is more on how religion rules instead of what happens to the world without religion

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

this answers the question: would the world be a better place if it is ruled by something other than religion

yung thread kasi is not about religion being replaced by something but it is more on how religion rules instead of what happens to the world without religion

Yup. And the question itself is already phrased with the wrong idea in mind - about the nature of religions. It is calling for answers with lack of nuance. At kinokumpleto ko lang ang kabuuan ng idea before anyone falls to a wrong mindset.

 

[plhbg1]

Yup. And the question itself is already phrased with the wrong idea in mind - about the nature of religions. It is calling for answers with lack of nuance. At kinokumpleto ko lang ang kabuuan ng idea before anyone falls to a wrong mindset.

so boss papaano ba mag rule ang religion para sa iyo, will it make the world a better place? yes or no question lang iyan, hindi naman siguro kulang ang nuance sa "yes" and "no" na sagot kasi completely different naman talaga silang dalawa hehe

 

[GildartsTale]

ChatGPT:

To answer your question, it's important to note that the idea of religion "running the world" can be interpreted in different ways. If you mean that the world would be better if all governments and institutions were based solely on religious principles, then it's a highly debated topic, and opinions vary widely.

On one hand, some people argue that religious values such as compassion, forgiveness, and respect for human dignity could promote more harmonious and compassionate societies. These values can be found in most religions, and if they were incorporated into governance, they could potentially lead to a more equitable and just world.

On the other hand, others argue that religion should not be the basis of political decision-making because it can be exclusive, dogmatic, and divisive. It's possible that religious institutions could be used to justify discrimination and oppression, and that different religions might conflict with each other, leading to conflicts and even violence.

Ultimately, it's difficult to say whether the world would be a better place if it were run by religion. While religion can provide valuable ethical and moral guidance, it's important to recognize that religion is a personal choice, and not everyone shares the same beliefs. A more inclusive and diverse approach to governance that respects individual beliefs and values might be a better path to a more just and equitable world.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

so boss papaano ba mag rule ang religion para sa iyo, will it make the world a better place? yes or no question lang iyan, hindi naman siguro kulang ang nuance sa "yes" and "no" na sagot kasi completely different naman talaga silang dalawa hehe

Yung answer nga na "yes and no" ang mismo dahilan kaya nawawala ng nuances. Dahil mali na ang idea in phrasing the question. At limited ang proper response.

So my answer is really more or less the same sa sagot ni chatgpt. It is a case to case basis. Some countries need religion to be better, but some countries need to get away from religion to be better.

Keep in mind.. there is still a question of "what constitutes a better place?" economic prosperity?
Population happiness?
Equality?
Freedom to compete?

You have to believe in a mythical éùtopia if you can truly and honestly decide what exactly is a "better place".

 

[plhbg1]

ChatGPT:

To answer your question, it's important to note that the idea of religion "running the world" can be interpreted in different ways. If you mean that the world would be better if all governments and institutions were based solely on religious principles, then it's a highly debated topic, and opinions vary widely.

On one hand, some people argue that religious values such as compassion, forgiveness, and respect for human dignity could promote more harmonious and compassionate societies. These values can be found in most religions, and if they were incorporated into governance, they could potentially lead to a more equitable and just world.

On the other hand, others argue that religion should not be the basis of political decision-making because it can be exclusive, dogmatic, and divisive. It's possible that religious institutions could be used to justify discrimination and oppression, and that different religions might conflict with each other, leading to conflicts and even violence.

Ultimately, it's difficult to say whether the world would be a better place if it were run by religion. While religion can provide valuable ethical and moral guidance, it's important to recognize that religion is a personal choice, and not everyone shares the same beliefs. A more inclusive and diverse approach to governance that respects individual beliefs and values might be a better path to a more just and equitable world.

mabuti pa itong si chatGPT playing safe nasa middle lang hehe

Yung answer nga na "yes and no" ang mismo dahilan kaya nawawala ng nuances. Dahil mali na ang idea in phrasing the question. At limited ang proper response.

So my answer is really more or less the same sa sagot ni chatgpt. It is a case to case basis. Some countries need religion to be better, but some countries need to get away from religion to be better.

Keep in mind.. there is still a question of "what constitutes a better place?" economic prosperity?
Population happiness?
Equality?
Freedom to compete?

You have to believe in a mythical éùtopia if you can truly and honestly decide what exactly is a "better place".

good point din yung "what exactly is a better place" and i think most answers would just go in between the yes and no

but what about if we go personal, would it make an individual a better person if he/she is governed by religion? hehe