Not-so-good Bible Verses #4

[OrangeMoon]

Grabe ang treatment dati

NIV
Judges 19:25
"But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them,"
and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go."

KJV
Judges 19:25
"But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them;
and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go."

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[NESTEA APPLE]

nice maka-try nga basahin mga verse n'yo from to first to fourth

 

[OrangeMoon]

nice maka-try nga basahin mga verse n'yo from to first to fourth

Kasama na din sa grind ito lods hahaha

 

[realkill14]

Itaas mo sa 22, may mga manyakol at mga rapist talaga dati pa. Casually na papasukin ung bahay tapos mangrape, bwesit

 

[daniel_seven]

Whether you believe it or not, the Bible never contradicted itself.

 

[OrangeMoon]

Whether you believe it or not, the Bible never contradicted itself.

Di po ba lods yung "Thou shalt not kill", tapos eto sa baba, e contradiction na agad?

1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them;
put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

Huwag pumatay, vs sige patayin niyo (lalake, babae, bata, sanggol, pati mga hayop)

(Again healthy discussion lang naman lods.)

 

[realkill14]

Meron talata mahirap ma gets magkasunod yun eh sa Psalm, parang contradiction pero hindi pag inunawa.

 

[daniel_seven]

Di po ba lods yung "Thou shalt not kill", tapos eto sa baba, e contradiction na agad?

1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them;
put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

Huwag pumatay, vs sige patayin niyo (lalake, babae, bata, sanggol, pati mga hayop)

(Again healthy discussion lang naman lods.)

Believe it or not boss, walang nagkontra dyan.

 

[Pun_Ops]

Believe it or not boss, walang nagkontra dyan.

Paano mo nasabi?

 

[daniel_seven]

Paano mo nasabi?

No need to explain boss. Your faith urges you to say that you believe it. Kung ayaw mong maniwala, alam mo na ang dahilan.

 

[Pun_Ops]

No need to explain boss. Your faith urges you to say that you believe it. Kung ayaw mong maniwala, alam mo na ang dahilan.

Give me faith first.

 

[daniel_seven]

Give me faith first.

Funny that we ask for faith when it is a choice to believe. Can't give what you're asking, boss.

 

[Pun_Ops]

Funny that we ask for faith when it is a choice to believe. Can't give what you're asking, boss.

Funny how we tell people this, that, without even giving our flavor of faith.

 

[daniel_seven]

Funny how we tell people this, that, without even giving our flavor of faith.

Nasasayo na yan boss. Mapipikon ka lang pag kinontra pa kita.

 

[Pun_Ops]

Chill lang naman ako paps, tinatanong ko lng naman kung paano mo nasabi hahaha.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Di po ba lods yung "Thou shalt not kill", tapos eto sa baba, e contradiction na agad?

1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them;
put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

Huwag pumatay, vs sige patayin niyo (lalake, babae, bata, sanggol, pati mga hayop)

(Again healthy discussion lang naman lods.)

Ang original bible commandment regarding killing in hebrew actually said "thou shall not murder." Murder is a very specific kind of killing.

 

[OrangeMoon]

Ang original bible commandment regarding killing in hebrew actually said "thou shall not murder." Murder is a very specific kind of killing.

Pero hindi po ba lods murder na ito ng Amalekites, pati babies?
Or dahil ba vengeance ito, so different case?

1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them;
put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Pero hindi po ba lods murder na ito ng Amalekites, pati babies?
Or dahil ba vengeance ito, so different case?

1 Samuel 15:3
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them;
put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.”

Kung bibigyang mo ng consideration ang sinaunang pag-iisip tungkol sa pagpatay, napakalayo sa murder nung binanggit diyan. Mapalad lang talaga tayo na hindi tayo nabuhay sa panahon ng mga giyera at digmaan, pero isa yan sa mga justified na pagpatay na kailan lng naging immoral sa isip ng tao.

 

[OrangeMoon]

Kung bibigyang mo ng consideration ang sinaunang pag-iisip tungkol sa pagpatay, napakalayo sa murder nung binanggit diyan. Mapalad lang talaga tayo na hindi tayo nabuhay sa panahon ng mga giyera at digmaan, pero isa yan sa mga justified na pagpatay na kailan lng naging immoral sa isip ng tao.

Kung based sa times ang morals lods, so hindi ba magiging outdated din ang bible?

Kunwari, sa homosexuality, dapat na rin ba i accept kasi sa times ngayon di outdated na ang anti-gay thinking? I a adjust ba natin ang bible verses according to the current norms

Kung bibigyang mo ng consideration ang sinaunang pag-iisip tungkol sa pagpatay, napakalayo sa murder nung binanggit diyan. Mapalad lang talaga tayo na hindi tayo nabuhay sa panahon ng mga giyera at digmaan, pero isa yan sa mga justified na pagpatay na kailan lng naging immoral sa isip ng tao.

Isa pa lods, may time period ba na magiging acceptable mag "murder" ng baby for vengeance po ba

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Kung based sa times ang morals lods, so hindi ba magiging outdated din ang bible?

Kunwari, sa homosexuality, dapat na rin ba i accept kasi sa times ngayon di outdated na ang anti-gay thinking? I a adjust ba natin ang bible verses according to the current norms

Oo, outdated na ang ilang kunsepto, sa maraming bagay ang bible. Pero sinulat nmn ang bible para makita natin ang psychology ng sinaunang tao para maintindihan natin kung paano tayo nakarating kung nasaan tayo ngayon.

At oo, matagal n dapat tayo nag adjust sa views sa mga gay, mula noong magkaroon tayo ng kaalaman kung paano kumakalat ang AIDs at wala itong kinalaman sa gender. Pero hindi mo din maitatanggi na ang pagiging gay ay pagkakait sa sarili magkaroon ng kumpletong buhay at siguradong paraan maging mag-isa pag tanda. Kung tutuusin following your logic, we should also abolish monogamy dahil may ****** nmn na to protect us from std.

So ang point is:
1. The bible was not written as a manual to live our life word by word. It is merely a history of our psychology for us to learn how people think in the past. If viewed that way, there is no "conflict"

2. Even if some details are outdated, there are truths we can learn, but we have to adjust the context to what science already knows. Example: bawal daw kumain ng baboy, so tatanungin mo kung bakit, then you will find na hindi pala baboy ang problema kung hindi ung improper na preparation nito, so ang bawal tlga ay ang kumain ng hilaw na karne.