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Here’s When We’ll See Toyota Solid-State Batteries​

The Japanese automaker has plan for several EV families, and each will get its own battery type.
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  • Toyota reveals roadmap for several types of batteries it plans to begin producing this decade, with four separate families of batteries meant for different vehicles.
  • The Japanese automaker plans to introduce solid-state batteries to its vehicles in the 2027-'28 timeframe, predicting a fast-charging time of 10 minutes or less.
  • Toyota is also working on LFP batteries, which will arrive sooner and will be aimed at less expensive mass-produced models, promising a significant reduction in cost compared to the batteries currently used in the bZ4X.

Toyota may be just getting started in the EV race—it has a grand total of one battery-electric model on sale—but the automaker is already planning several generations ahead when it comes to batteries. It revealed a detailed roadmap for its battery technology during the launch of a BEV factory in Europe, and it's nothing short of ambitious.
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The automaker unveiled plans for four next-gen batteries it intends to produce in the coming years, each with different goals, technology, ranges, and price points.

When it comes to batteries with liquid electrolytes, Toyota divided them into three separate categories.

First, the automaker's Performance lithium-ion battery tech is slated to arrive in 2026, and promises a range of over 497 miles (800 kilometers) in addition to a 20% reduction in cost compared to current lithium-ion batteries found in the bZ4X. This category of battery also promises a rapid recharging time of 20 minutes or less.
The second battery family is dubbed Popularization, and it will be a lithium iron phosphate (LFP) composition promising a 20% increase in range as well as a 40% reduction in cost, compared to the bZ4X. This battery type is slated to arrive in 2026 or 2027, and will target a fast recharging time of half an hour or less.
2023 toyota bz4x in red with black accents viewed from the driver side

The Toyota bz4x gets up to 250 miles on a charge.

So it will be a bit slower to recharge, but will still offer more range than the battery found in the automaker's debut electric SUV.
"We will need various options for batteries, just like we have different variations of engines. It is important to offer battery solutions compatible with a variety of models and customer needs," said Takero Kato, president, BEV Factory.
The third battery type Toyota plans to put into production in the coming years has been dubbed simply High-Performance, pairing a high nickel cathode with a bipolar structure with lithium-ion chemistry. This battery promises to be 10% less expensive to produce than the Performance type, and will also offer a charging time of 20 minutes or less. This battery type is currently expected to arrive in 2027 or 2028.
2023 toyota ev battery timeline

The automaker shared a timeline for the introduction of several new EV battery types, each aimed at different vehicle families.

Finally, Toyota is also working on You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Even with a few claimed breakthroughs by a number of tech startups, solid-state batteries aren't expected to arrive until the second half of the decade in a best-case scenario, by most estimates. And Toyota's own efforts reflect this view as well.
As other developers, Toyota has been working on solid-state compositions for several years, hoping to combine a more compact design that can hold more power with rapid charging and discharging capabilities.
"The trade-off, until now, has been an expected shorter battery life. However, recent technological advancements by Toyota have overcome this challenge and the company has switched its focus to putting solid-state batteries into mass production," Toyota notes.

This battery type is still projected to arrive in this decade, by 2027 or 2028 according to the automaker's internal estimates, promising 20% increase in range compared even to the Performance battery family, and a fast-charging time of 10 minutes or less—both ambitious targets.
But Toyota is betting on one other factor to increase EV range even with these next generations of batteries—aerodynamics. And this mean batteries that will have to be flatter.


"If the height of the battery can be reduced then it follows that the overall height of the vehicle can be reduced, CdA can be improved and overall range can be increased," the automaker points out.


We've already gotten a preview of just how low Toyota will go with You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. to squeeze out more aerodynamic efficiency. This thinking will be applied to battery packs as well, Toyota hints.
"Today the battery pack of the bZ4X, including casing, is around 150mm high," the automaker noted. "Tomorrow, Toyota plans to reduce the battery height to 120mm, and even 100mm in the case of high-performance sports vehicles where a low hip-position is also desirable."

Of course, before all of these batteries arrive, Toyota has to bring more EVs to market with its existing tech, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.
The rare and embarrassing stumble for the automaker renewed concerns that it was trying to make up lost time when it comes to battery R&D, after largely ignoring the EV craze of the 2010s and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Will we see dramatic gains in range and reductions in cost when solid-state batteries arrive on the market, to the point that several US states will be able to transition to ZEV-only sales by 2035? Let us know what you think.
 
Napag iwanan ng China sa EV ang Toyota
Sana makahabol sila sa batt using yang SSB
Sales and production lng nmn technically ang lamang ng China, pero IDK pagdating sa R&D. As of now, we know China will sell trashy old tech, kahit hazardous, as long people will buy it.

Depende sa mga company kung mag outsource sila ng production sa China. Kung gagawin nila un, parang pinamigay nalng din nila ung R&D efforts nila sa China. At tlagang mapag iiwanan sila.
 
Sales and production lng nmn technically ang lamang ng China, pero IDK pagdating sa R&D. As of now, we know China will sell trashy old tech, kahit hazardous, as long people will buy it.
BYD ay nag le lead ngayon worldwide lods, pati sa Europe takot na sila mapag iwanan sa EV
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Pati Tesla, tinatapatan na

Depende sa mga company kung mag outsource sila ng production sa China. Kung gagawin nila un, parang pinamigay nalng din nila ung R&D efforts nila sa China. At tlagang mapag iiwanan sila.
Factory of the world na kasi ang China. Yung Apple, nag try mag move to India sa isang iPhone part, pero 50% reject, habang China kaya ng 90+% (98+ pa nga yata.) Mataas na kasi prod. quality ng China, halos lahat dun na gawa.

Sales and production lng nmn technically ang lamang ng China, pero IDK pagdating sa R&D. As of now, we know China will sell trashy old tech, kahit hazardous, as long people will buy it.

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BYD ay nag le lead ngayon worldwide lods, pati sa Europe takot na sila mapag iwanan sa EV
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Pati Tesla, tinatapatan na


Factory of the world na kasi ang China. Yung Apple, nag try mag move to India sa isang iPhone part, pero 50% reject, habang China kaya ng 90+% (98+ pa nga yata.) Mataas na kasi prod. quality ng China, halos lahat dun na gawa.


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Interesting. Only time will tell kung ano kalalabasan.

Personally, kung between Tesla or BYD lang ang usapan, dun ako sa Chinese brand. Usually kasi overpriced ang European at American brands. Pero mas marami paring tao ang mas gusto nung american and european brand due to the prestige. May ganyan din trait ang Chinese market.

I don't know how the japanese brand will do. But adding them to the equation, I will pick them over Chinese, American or European dahil naman sa reliability kung saan sila kilala.

We just can't underestimate the prestige or the reputation once mainstream market na ang EV.
 
Interesting. Only time will tell kung ano kalalabasan.

Personally, kung between Tesla or BYD lang ang usapan, dun ako sa Chinese brand. Usually kasi overpriced ang European at American brands. Pero mas marami paring tao ang mas gusto nung american and european brand due to the prestige. May ganyan din trait ang Chinese market.

I don't know how the japanese brand will do. But adding them to the equation, I will pick them over Chinese, American or European dahil naman sa reliability kung saan sila kilala.

We just can't underestimate the prestige or the reputation once mainstream market na ang EV.
Agreed, sana makahabol solid state ng Japan, iba pa rin attention to quality ng Japanese
 
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