Best Value Processor for PC (Mid Gaming Performance)

[misbehavior]

The most balanced and well performed processor right now in the market is

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Pros

• Strong Single Core Performance.
• Overall better Multi-Core Performance over the last gen.
• iGPU
• 4x more E-Cores over the last gen.
• 1GHz Sustained Clocks on all P-Cores.
• 9GHz Sustained Clocks on all E-Cores.
• DDR4 and 5 Support.
• PCIe 5.0 Support.

Cons

• None

If you're planning to upgrade your processor, this is your best piece.

 

[OrangeMoon]

Yun din hula ko i5 lods

 

[bingjalz]

productivity performance yes, gaming? nop, ryzen 5 7600X can go toe to toe with this CPU and only cost 14k compare to this 17k.

 

[misbehavior]

productivity performance yes, gaming? nop, ryzen 5 7600X can go toe to toe with this CPU and only cost 14k compare to this 17k.

Yeah but this thread focus on overall value (in and ext factors) not only on gaming and cost. Still depends on your needs, budget, and priorities. 7600x is also a good option.

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[OrangeMoon]

productivity performance yes, gaming? nop, ryzen 5 7600X can go toe to toe with this CPU and only cost 14k compare to this 17k.

I think cpu + mobo cost is level

"In our opinion, AMD is in a position where they have to discount the 7600X towards the $200 mark in order to compete in anything outside of gaming. Not only that, but AMD needs quality sub-$200 AM5 motherboards for the 7600X to make sense even if the CPU is discounted.

As enticing as the AM5 platform is, if we were building a new PC today, for either gaming or work, we'd be going with the Core i5-13600K, it's the obvious choice, just as the 12600K was when we You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. it back in late 2021."

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[sasame9821]

no way in hell na worth the price here in philippines 7000 series
while 17k price ng i5 na yan vs 14k ng ryzen 5 7600x

merong isang advantage yang intel na hindi ma tatalo ng ryzen 5 7600x maski ano gawin nya
compatible sa ddr4 yang i5 13600k
meaning yung 3k na panama ng ryzen is ala kwenta kase mas mahal mobo nila
and mas mahal ram nila like ddr5 ram is 15kish 1 pair vs 2.5k to 3500 a pair

remember ddr5 lang am5 di sya backwards compatible sa ddr4
also B series ang minimum ng ryzen 7000 series not A (wala pa silang A na lumalabas)
not to mention kulelat sa core count yang r5 7600x 6 core vs 14
my rason kung bakit nirefresh ng amd yung production ng ryzen 5000 series

ps: para sa hindi nakakaalam AM5 LGA na yung socket ng 7000 series
meaning lahat ng old ryzen board is hindi na compatible sakanya

 

[OrangeMoon]

no way in hell na worth the price here in philippines 7000 series

Hindi natin alam magkano AMD mobo sa Hell lods JK lods hehe, baka doon 5k lang AMD hahaha
Yun na nga po din iniisip ko, mas mahal si i5 pero talo ka naman sa mobo kay AMD
Pati pala dahil sa DDR4, sabi niyo nga

 

[bingjalz]

msa mahal ang CPU sa 7000 series, true, walang backwards compatibility sa DDR4 true, still doesnt change the fact ryzen 5 7600X can go toe to toe with 13600k at a lower price in gaming. core count? yeah mas higher core count ang 13600k, everything is better in 13600k in papers. even in benchmark 13600k all the way. now lets get to real gaming performance and game test where everything is tested not written in papers. which basically what the tread is all about.

the thread literally says

Best Value Processor for PC (Mid Gaming Performance)​

not best value CPU build.

 

[sasame9821]

msa mahal ang CPU sa 7000 series, true, walang backwards compatibility sa DDR4 true, still doesnt change the fact ryzen 5 7600X can go toe to toe with 13600k at a lower price in gaming. core count? yeah mas higher core count ang 13600k, everything is better in 13600k in papers. even in benchmark 13600k all the way. now lets get to real gaming performance and game test where everything is tested not written in papers. which basically what the tread is all about.

the thread literally says

Best Value Processor for PC (Mid Gaming Performance)​

not best value CPU build.

Value is Value my dude DDR5 is 15k per kit
thats 14k + 15k vs 17k + 2.5k
how is that value for the ryzen unless in your book 28k is lower than 19.5k
if so then di PC specs need mo atupagin

maski if i 1 to 1 natin yung mobo nila na Aorus Elite AX na both at 13k
that is still 41k vs 32k how is this "VALUE" 8.5k more for what 10% performance
and that "10%" is for CPU power only

and for gaming pa in what world is wasting 8.5k on a CPU = Best Value for gaming
almost lahat ng builder eh ng kakandarapa para kaltasan yung budget ng CPU para i up yung GPU
and you do the reverse what the heck (unless isa ka sa mga tao na generic psu kase goods naman)
+8.5k on a GPU Budget is a better Value in every aspect specially for gaming
how is throwing away 8.5k for a dinky 10% VALUE??

basahin mo ulit yung binonld mo "BEST VALUE PROCESSOR for PC" (Mid gaming performance)

Given situation is (Mid Range) Gaming
processor doesn't weight more in gaming GPU does
wasting 8.5k for shit gains is BEST VALUE when?????

Ryzen 5 7600 is never a good value
1. the system as a whole is 8.5k more for so tiny of a gain
2. the platform it self is not mature DDR5 is buggy as shit even now
3. DDR5 is shit for its price to the point that they bundle a kit for the processor
just to entice builders to buy it in Micro Center and even then wala kumakagat

hindi ko pa sinali yung cross compatibility ng 13th gen sa 12th gen mobo (na mas mura)

ano advantage nya
well 10% increase
against all that demerits

Bad deal all around
are you hoping na since mas bago = better or 10% is better kase 10% more so its good
or bibili ka ng processor and since 10% faster bibilin mo na
pero wala sa usapan yung buong build kase tatakbo yung PC ng Walang mobo or Ram so 10% = best
on a value discussion no less

pumupunta tao dito sa forums for good insight and i can asure you na meron makakakita nito and say oh gaming need ko ng ryzen 5 7600 so dun nya ihahampas yung budget nya
tas papartneran nya ng 1050ti or mg lalaro lang sa IGPU ng Ryzen 5 7600
for your info RDNA 2 yung nasa AM5 hindi na Vega IGPU sya di na APU
same as UHD intel 630 na lang sya so now pagit ng build nya

Balance Value takes everything in to account

 

[bingjalz]

Value is Value my dude DDR5 is 15k per kit
thats 14k + 15k vs 17k + 2.5k
how is that value for the ryzen unless in your book 28k is lower than 19.5k
if so then di PC specs need mo atupagin

maski if i 1 to 1 natin yung mobo nila na Aorus Elite AX na both at 13k
that is still 41k vs 32k how is this "VALUE" 8.5k more for what 10% performance
and that "10%" is for CPU power only

and for gaming pa in what world is wasting 8.5k on a CPU = Best Value for gaming
almost lahat ng builder eh ng kakandarapa para kaltasan yung budget ng CPU para i up yung GPU
and you do the reverse what the heck (unless isa ka sa mga tao na generic psu kase goods naman)
+8.5k on a GPU Budget is a better Value in every aspect specially for gaming
how is throwing away 8.5k for a dinky 10% VALUE??

basahin mo ulit yung binonld mo "BEST VALUE PROCESSOR for PC" (Mid gaming performance)
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Given situation is (Mid Range) Gaming
processor doesn't weight more in gaming GPU does
wasting 8.5k for shit gains is BEST VALUE when?????

Ryzen 5 7600 is never a good value
1. the system as a whole is 8.5k more for so tiny of a gain
2. the platform it self is not mature DDR5 is buggy as shit even now
3. DDR5 is shit for its price to the point that they bundle a kit for the processor
just to entice builders to buy it in Micro Center and even then wala kumakagat

hindi ko pa sinali yung cross compatibility ng 13th gen sa 12th gen mobo (na mas mura)

ano advantage nya
well 10% increase
against all that demerits

Bad deal all around
are you hoping na since mas bago = better or 10% is better kase 10% more so its good
or bibili ka ng processor and since 10% faster bibilin mo na
pero wala sa usapan yung buong build kase tatakbo yung PC ng Walang mobo or Ram so 10% = best
on a value discussion no less

pumupunta tao dito sa forums for good insight and i can asure you na meron makakakita nito and say oh gaming need ko ng ryzen 5 7600 so dun nya ihahampas yung budget nya
tas papartneran nya ng 1050ti or mg lalaro lang sa IGPU ng Ryzen 5 7600
for your info RDNA 2 yung nasa AM5 hindi na Vega IGPU sya di na APU
same as UHD intel 630 na lang sya so now pagit ng build nya

Balance Value takes everything in to account

if it helps you sleep at night, then yes you're right!

 

[sasame9821]

if it helps you sleep at night, then yes you're right!

if it help people not be suckered in shit deals and build cause of some guy who fan boys
id gladly take your sad attempt at being passive aggressive L

 

[OrangeMoon]

if it helps you sleep at night, then yes you're right!

This answer adds zero insight to the discussion. CPU + mobo matters (+ DDR5 also as per lods sesame)

"the fact ryzen 5 7600X can go toe to toe with 13600k at a lower price in gaming. core count?"

Can you give a system computation, I mean cpu+mobo+RAM that shows AMD system is "at a lower price"?

if it help people not be suckered in shit deals and build cause of some guy who fan boys
id gladly take your sad attempt at being passive aggressive L

Puso mo lods
I think bingjalz just hasn't taken the whole system cost into consideration. Maybe he can take another look.

 

[sasame9821]

This answer adds zero insight to the discussion. CPU + mobo matters (+ DDR5 also as per lods sesame)

Can you give a system computation, I mean cpu+mobo+RAM that shows AMD system is "at a lower price"?


Puso mo lods
I think bingjalz just hasn't taken the whole system cost into consideration. Maybe he can take another look.

i swear if yung build reply nya is 1 stick ddr5 ram with an A series mobo or the bottom of the barrel B series
like msi asrock and gigabyte (except yung aorus)
mamatay ako sa katatawa

 

[bingjalz]

This answer adds zero insight to the discussion. CPU + mobo matters (+ DDR5 also as per lods sesame)

Can you give a system computation, I mean cpu+mobo+RAM that shows AMD system is "at a lower price"?

CPU build AMD side is much expensive no doubt, I'm just stating fact that the processor 7600x is much cheaper than 13600k and still can go toe to toe with it which basically is the thread "Processor", syempre di papatalo mga pabida natin dyan, but anyway that's that.

may dalawang klase na reply sa forum.

1st = stating your opinion, which basically you tell what is what.
2nd = the kind of reply na isang buong page ng libro daig pa chatGPT, kung pde e sali pa elecricity cost and delivery fee, just to justify na tama tlaga cya at mali yung iba. (bigyan ng jacket hehe)

anyway not interested in the 2nd kind of reply, so. yeah hes right, not gonna waste time arguring.
the only thing I can say sa mga pabida is "you're right"

 

[sasame9821]

CPU build AMD side is much expensive no doubt, I'm just stating fact that the processor 7600x is much cheaper than 13600k and still can go toe to toe with it which basically is the thread "Processor", syempre di papatalo mga pabida natin dyan, but anyway that's that.

may dalawang klase na reply sa forum.

1st = stating your opinion, which basically you tell what is what.
2nd = the kind of reply na isang buong page ng libro daig pa chatGPT, kung pde e sali pa elecricity cost and delivery fee, just to justify na tama tlaga cya at mali yung iba. (bigyan ng jacket hehe)

anyway not interested in the 2nd kind of reply, so. yeah hes right, not gonna waste time arguring.
the only thing I can say sa mga pabida is "you're right"

take your L like a man and sit aside if you cant foresee and banter for a good discussion
happy to serve you the L
mister file system format = boot sector format
oh what about mister not good mobo cause no heat sink omega LOL
psst mobo heatsink can be bought for like 100 pesos

ps im half texan so pabida not in my book
its either your good or you suck and for you well you blowed like half chub blowed
my reason why i dont have established cause i dont need the feel of i need it
so have another L and a third L for using emojis (really this is a big L kek)

TLDR kase mukang need mo
sucks to suck KEKW

 

[misbehavior]

CPU build AMD side is much expensive no doubt, I'm just stating fact that the processor 7600x is much cheaper than 13600k and still can go toe to toe with it which basically is the thread "Processor", syempre di papatalo mga pabida natin dyan, but anyway that's that.

may dalawang klase na reply sa forum.

1st = stating your opinion, which basically you tell what is what.
2nd = the kind of reply na isang buong page ng libro daig pa chatGPT, kung pde e sali pa elecricity cost and delivery fee, just to justify na tama tlaga cya at mali yung iba. (bigyan ng jacket hehe)

anyway not interested in the 2nd kind of reply, so. yeah hes right, not gonna waste time arguring.
the only thing I can say sa mga pabida is "you're right"

take your L like a man and sit aside if you cant foresee and banter for a good discussion
happy to serve you the L
mister file system format = boot sector format
oh what about mister not good mobo cause no heat sink omega LOL
psst mobo heatsink can be bought for like 100 pesos

ps im half texan so pabida not in my book
its either your good or you suck and for you well you blowed like half chub blowed
my reason why i dont have established cause i dont need the feel of i need it
so have another L and a third L for using emojis (really this is a big L kek)

TLDR kase mukang need mo
sucks to suck KEKW

Guys. Anyare? Awat na tau. You both have different POV and both valid nmn. Thanks sa info and contribution nyo sa thread ko. Peace na sana kayo. Lovelots.

 

[bingjalz]

Guys. Anyare? Awat na tau. You both have different POV and both valid nmn. Thanks sa info and contribution nyo sa thread ko. Peace na sana kayo. Lovelots.

hahahha chill, dont worry, na ignore ko na yan, kya never na kami mgkakatalo dito sa forum, best way to avoid unnecessary quarrel is to ignore. di ko na nbabasa mga reply nya but im pretty sure, putak na ng putak yan. cno ba nmn di magagalit, ikaw kaya papansin tas di ka pansinin magagalit ka tlaga.. hahaha.. bka isang page na nmn sinasabi nyan sayang di ko na mabasa.

anyway hindi nmn to first time ngpapansin yan, dami na rin thread dito na lagi ngpapabida yan.. hinahayaan ko lng nung una, napahiya ksi sa isang thread dito nung na debate ko, kya ayun parang stalker kung asan ako mag reply pabida din cya at tlagang nka "quote" pa lahat ng reply ko. ayaw patalo hahaha..

peace yow! already stated my opinion. paki comfort nlng yan bossing bka di na mkatulog yan.. haha

 

[sasame9821]

Guys. Anyare? Awat na tau. You both have different POV and both valid nmn. Thanks sa info and contribution nyo sa thread ko. Peace na sana kayo. Lovelots.

meh to me negativity if funny i like it i have him ignored i just look at his weak
replys kase bad takes need to be railed hehehe yung tlagang hard thrust
funny specially if the info really bad

 

[OrangeMoon]

Guys. Anyare? Awat na tau. You both have different POV and both valid nmn. Thanks sa info and contribution nyo sa thread ko. Peace na sana kayo. Lovelots.

hahahha chill, dont worry, na ignore ko na yan, kya never na kami mgkakatalo dito sa forum, best way to avoid unnecessary quarrel is to ignore. di ko na nbabasa mga reply nya but im pretty sure, putak na ng putak yan. cno ba nmn di magagalit, ikaw kaya papansin tas di ka pansinin magagalit ka tlaga.. hahaha.. bka isang page na nmn sinasabi nyan sayang di ko na mabasa.

anyway hindi nmn to first time ngpapansin yan, dami na rin thread dito na lagi ngpapabida yan.. hinahayaan ko lng nung una, napahiya ksi sa isang thread dito nung na debate ko, kya ayun parang stalker kung asan ako mag reply pabida din cya at tlagang nka "quote" pa lahat ng reply ko. ayaw patalo hahaha..

peace yow! already stated my opinion. paki comfort nlng yan bossing bka di na mkatulog yan.. haha

meh to me negativity if funny i like it i have him ignored i just look at his weak
replys kase bad takes need to be railed hehehe yung tlagang hard thrust
funny specially if the info really bad

Yes mga lods, stick na lang tayo sa topic, mga puso natin mga masters, másáráp pang mabuhay

AMD CPU is cheaper by itself, pero CPUs are useless unless used in a system
"AMD CPU only" is cheaper, beats i5 in gaming benchmarks (not by a lot, few percent, some FPS)

i5 in a system beats AMD

Maybe in 2024, a cheaper AMD + mobo + RAM system will come out and be cheaper than i5

 

[Alexander911]

productivity performance yes, gaming? nop, ryzen 5 7600X can go toe to toe with this CPU and only cost 14k compare to this 17k.

Oke na sana sinabi mo kaso like everyone else nung nag launch ang AM5 platform, mahal ng Mobo, mahal din ng ramstick, wala ng DDR4 support sakanya.

Another alternative sa i5-13600k is i5-13400f, same same lang din sya sa i5-12600k but just percentage yung gap nilang dalawa.

Kung AMD talaga yung bet, 7500f, talo nya yung i5-13400f sa gaming perf, but sadly sa office work talaga talo sya.