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[mamasitas]

Any source? Kung wala, invalid yang sinasabi mo.
Ang roman empire ay pagans.
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do your research my boy.

 

[JRDN]

do your research my boy.

I did my own. Do your own

 

[mamasitas]

I did my own. Do your own

nakakahiya, nabiktima ka rin ng Roman Piso family hehehe

 

[JRDN]

nakakahiya, nabiktima ka rin ng Roman Piso family hehehe

Walang source? ano na?
Mas nakakahiya yung mga claims mo na walang basehan.

 

[mamasitas]

Walang source? ano na?
Mas nakakahiya yung mga claims mo na walang basehan.

naghahanap ka ng source,
sample lang ito para maliwanagan ka sa konteng parte ng history,
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use your critical thingking my boy hehehe

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baka naman bumalik ka sa katinuan mo kapag natutunan mo ang history ng libro mo,

 

[JRDN]

naghahanap ka ng source,
sample lang ito para maliwanagan ka sa konteng parte ng history,
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use your critical thingking my boy hehehe

Critical thinking pinagsasabi mo? Eh ang layo ng source mo.
Ang sabi mo Roman Empire nagpasimula ng Christianity?
Nasaan dyan?

 

[mamasitas]

Critical thinking pinagsasabi mo? Eh ang layo ng source mo.
Ang sabi mo Roman Empire nagpasimula ng Christianity?
Nasaan dyan?

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"The New Testament, the Church, and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso family,
who were Roman aristocrats.

The New Testament and all the characters in it—Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles,
Paul, and John the Baptist—are all fictional."
Abelard Reuchlin
from The True Authorship of the New Testament

"How well we know what a profitable superstition
this fable of Christ has been for us."
Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Tony Bushby
from The Bible Fraud

baka naman bumalik ka sa katinuan mo kapag natutunan mo ang history ng libro mo,

 

[JRDN]

Oh ano naman to? hahahaha!
Parang bata pa gumawa ng website na to isang page lang.
Nasaan yung source dito?
NAsaan yung history?
Nasaan yung mga manuscripts from Ancient Rome?

 

[mamasitas]

Oh ano naman to? hahahaha!
Parang bata pa gumawa ng website na to isang page lang.
Nasaan yung source dito?
NAsaan yung history?
Nasaan yung mga manuscripts from Ancient Rome?
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yan ang sinasabi ko sa inyo e,
ngayon nakabalandra sa harap nyo ang malaking problema,
dahil yan ang yayanig sa inyong pinakaiingatang paniniwala,
konte pa lang yan, yan lang muna my boy

 

[JRDN]

yan ang sinasabi ko sa inyo e,
ngayon nakabalandra sa harap nyo ang malaking problema,
dahil yan ang yayanig sa inyong pinakaiingatang paniniwala,

Talaga?
Eh wala pa kong nababasang may sense sa mga nakasulat dito.
Bukod sa kulang-kulang yung century dates. Eh puro theory lang. Walang fragments.
Pero wag ka mag-alala hindi ako magiging one-sided. Babasahin ko muna lahat.

 

[mamasitas]

Talaga?
Eh wala pa kong nababasang may sense sa mga nakasulat dito.
Bukod sa kulang-kulang yung century dates. Eh puro theory lang. Walang fragments.
Pero wag ka mag-alala hindi ako magiging one-sided. Babasahin ko muna lahat.

biglang nagka-umpug-umpog mga salaysay mo my boy, hehehe
hinusgahan mo na agad, nagulat ka yata
kung tayo magkaharap ng personal nagkang-uutal ka na seguro
well, marami pa akong gagawin, bye, bye muna

 

[JRDN]

biglang nagka-umpug-umpog mga salaysay mo my boy, hehehe
hinusgahan mo na agad, nagulat ka yata
kung tayo magkaharap ng personal nagkang-uutal ka na seguro
well, marami pa akong gagawin, bye, bye muna

Talaga?
Eh wala pa kong nababasang may sense sa mga nakasulat dito.
Bukod sa kulang-kulang yung century dates. Eh puro theory lang. Walang fragments.
Pero wag ka mag-alala hindi ako magiging one-sided. Babasahin ko muna lahat.

Haaaaa?
sinasabi ko lang sayo agad dahil may mga nakita ko agad na error.
Masyado ka yatang assuming na totoo yan? hahahaha.
hahanap pa ko ng errors ha.. balikan kita

 

[JRDN]

Unreliability#1

(1) Flavius Josephus was really Arrius Piso, and
(2) Arrius Piso was/played “Jesus” in the New Testament

In terms of Arrius Calpurnius Piso himself, he indeed made certain that his full and real name was never to be found anywhere that was obvious in history - therefore hiding his true identity from everyone but a small few.

To restate this, the name “Arrius Calpurnius Piso” is not found outright in ancient history. But, it can be deduced and therefore reconstructed, because it is found in parts or ‘chopped up’ here and there. It is a matter of putting all of the ‘parts’ together to get his true full name. Remember, this name was deliberately hidden and for an express purpose.

Ang tanong eh pano nya nalaman kung wala pala sa ancient History.
Himay-himay lang yung kung saan man nyang nakuha source na yun eh wala naman nabanggit. ito yung sinasabi kong wala manuscript man lang or fragments.

Abelard Reuchlin puts it this way:

“He does not appear (in history) as Arius Calpurnius Piso. His true identity is decipherable only by reconstruction.”
Ref. “The True Authorship of the New Testament,” pg. 3.

Tapos sasabihin nya "deliberately hidden" kuno eh pano niya nga nalaman?
In the end, theory pa rin hindi pala history

 

[JRDN]

Unreliability#2

Vitellius took control over the empire as emperor. He was killed soon afterwards, by Arrius Calpurnius Piso."

Really? But according to Suetonius, who in The Twelve Caesars records , Vitellius was killed by a group of soldiers who performed various atrocities on him before throwing his body in the Tiber.
Contradicting na naman..

Around the end of the reign of Hadrian (after 135 CE) Julius Calpurnius Piso, the son of Arrius Piso, made a big mistake. He had just conquered the Jews at Masada, after which the Jews scattered to all corners of the earth. This was the infamous Diaspora. It was a stunning (if brutal) victory, and Julius wanted to make the most of it. He asked Hadrian to make his son successor to the Emperor, knowing full well that if Hadrian refused, Julius would be obliged to commit suicide. Hadrian refused.

Medyo nakakalito na, Masada was a last stand for the Jews in 73 AD, not in the time of Hadrian nangyari between117 to 138 , and the "Diaspora" refers to Jews scattered among the nations even long before 70 AD.
Who is Julius? seems to be another invention of the theory. There was indeed a "Julius Piso" who was mentioned in a letter of Pliny but he had nothing to do with the Jewish War. The Roman commander at Masada was named Silva (Josephus, War 7.8)

Nakakaloko naman pala to eh
Ito ba yung reliability ng source na sinasabi mo?
Na according to "him" eh to "him" lang?
Paano yung manuscript ng ibang historians? sounds ad hoc.

 

[JRDN]

Ang whole idea pala nitong "Roman Piso" mo kuno eh.
Inimbento ng Roman Empire si "Jesus" para kontrolin ang mga Jews.
Really? it doesn't make sense to me
For over 2,000 years of slavery of Jews? eh kapag inutusan ka nga ng Roman soldier na buhatin mo yung sako ng 1 mile wala ka magagawa kundi sumunod. hindi pa ba control tawag mo don?
At pagdating sa pagiging expert sa Persecutions like crucifixion, pagpapakain sa mga leon at pagpapahila ng tao sa kabayo etc.. eh Roman Empire lang may kakayahan.

Kahit isipin mo lang eh. Anong sense para magimbento pa ng Jesus? Eh hawak mo na sa leeg yung Jews for over 2000 years. Wala na silang karapatan at kinatatakutan ka pa nila.
Bakit mo kokontrolin yung kontrolado mo na?
This was the dumbest theory.

 

[jayendecastro]

Basa basa lang ako sa mga sagot ng isang theist dito..

 

[mamasitas]

Ang whole idea pala nitong "Roman Piso" mo kuno eh.
Inimbento ng Roman Empire si "Jesus" para kontrolin ang mga Jews.
Really? it doesn't make sense to me
For over 2,000 years of slavery of Jews? eh kapag inutusan ka nga ng Roman soldier na buhatin mo yung sako ng 1 mile wala ka magagawa kundi sumunod. hindi pa ba control tawag mo don?
At pagdating sa pagiging expert sa Persecutions like crucifixion, pagpapakain sa mga leon at pagpapahila ng tao sa kabayo etc.. eh Roman Empire lang may kakayahan.

Kahit isipin mo lang eh. Anong sense para magimbento pa ng Jesus? Eh hawak mo na sa leeg yung Jews for over 2000 years. Wala na silang karapatan at kinatatakutan ka pa nila.
Bakit mo kokontrolin yung kontrolado mo na?
This was the dumbest theory.

Specific Items in History Related to the "Synthesis Of Christianity"
...

They (the persons who wrote the New Testament, etc.) were able to do these things because of the pre-existing mechanism or system of control over the masses which we call "the closed environment", but which is also known as a "controlled" environment. Which simply stated means that ONLY royals could write works for public consumption—and even then only with permission and approval of a royal counsel. There were NO common persons with the ability to communicate with the masses at large. No freedom of speech. Everything that was written of for the masses were carefully conceived, created, approved of by royalty and had motives behind them for being written.

The main reasons for the New Testament being written was:
a) as a means by which to preserve and continue the practice of slavery and

b) to disseminate rhetorical ideologies to the masses that would make them more easy to control and manipulate. And,

c) to be a 'universal' or 'catholic' religion so as to extend their power and control over the masses to other conquered countries and to more easily conquer other countries.

They aimed at conquering India for example, which they never really did despite their efforts to do so. They were ALWAYS aiming at extending Roman boundaries.

There was a long all-out war going on between royal houses over the issue of slavery before and as the New Testament was being written. At several points the Romans could very well have LOST the war* and they (the Romans and their allies) were in desperate need for more and better means with which to

a) put down revolt of the slaves themselves and make them complacent and as 'content' as possible in their situation—even going as far as to offer them (in the NT) life after death and a 'reward' in heaven.

b) They needed to make their own military stronger, loyal, and braver, as well as filled with HATE for the enemy; "the Jews."

c) They needed to offer the same 'life after death' to their own soldiers so that they would not be afraid to die in battle. And,

d) they needed a means by which to console the widows and other relatives of soldiers who would fall or die in battle (as well as 'hope' for the crippled, etc.). All of this was done via the rhetoric and ideology that they placed into the New Testament. And,

e) they could NEVER let the masses know that they, the ROMAN royalty manufactured this great lie—so they HAD to appear to be either indifferent and/or non-approving of it (the Christian religion and Christians).

 

[Need]

Ganyan talaga ang buhay.

 

[mamasitas]

malaya ang sinuman na pasubalian ang mga nakasaad dyan, gawin nyo na ang anumang nalalaman nyong kaparaanan

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"We Jews and Church Leaders have known since the beginning of Christianity that it was synthesized by the Roman Piso family for the purpose of maintaining control over the masses and to placate slaves.

And, this is why we Jews are the “Chosen People” and why we have endured so much for so many years; we are witnesses to the lie. Our ancestors wrote what they could about this in our texts.”

 

[JRDN]

mamasitas
Again, your "Roman Piso" is invalid. It doesn't align sa History ng Ancient Rome. It is just all hypothesis or assumption. Abelard Reuchlin only believe na si Arrius Piso at Flavius Josephus ay iisang tao pero walang basehan kasi "secret nga lang daw".
Tapos dinisregard na nya yung ibang historians at ibang tao sa Ancient Roman. Ano yun? sa kanya ba ko dapat makinig kung sya lang gumawa ng kwento? Mas makikinig ako sa History ng Ancient Rome kung saan may mga fragments at manuscript ng mga reports sa emperor. Eh hindi nga tugma-tugma kwento nyang Piso na yan
Date at stories sablay.

Hindi ko na alam kung bakit humaba ng ganito usapan na out of topic na pala tayo sa thread hahahah!
Well, it's our choice what to believe.
Sa huli pa rin magkaka-alaman ang mga tao kung ano ang totoo.Ang saken lang kung hindi ako sigurado kung ano mangyayare dapat maghanda, dahil lagi natin sinasabi "laging nasa huli ang pagsisisi"
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Matthew 24:43
43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into.