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to explain further in brief:

from Old testament kailangan ng blood to clean sa mga Sin. Kaya Israelites required sa kanila to offer a blood of the animals (sheep or lamb) kailangan din first born and blameless walang sakit ang e offer to clean temporarily. (naging tradition na to sa Abrahamic religion until today) Once and for all ang truly man name Jesus Christ from Nazareth siya ang Lamb para ang kasalanan ay malinis. So kailangan ng dugo ng first born, blameless (no sin). Sana Malinaw... So ang foregiveness sa sin ang pwede lang mag forgive sa Sin in old testament si God. Walang pweding mag claim nya kong hindi papatayin ka ng mga Israelites. Sino pwede mag hukom ang Dios lang. Jesus will come to Judge. Si Jesus lang din ang mag forgive. so Jesus is God siya ang mag Judge at saka siya ang mag forgive. Thats why Jesus Christ is a Man-God hindi pwede Hybrid or Mestiso. That's why sinasabi nya na My God my God why are you forsaken me at marami pang iba bilang isang totoong tao. And thats why sinabi din nya na before Abraham I AM. Thats why sinabi din nya to na if tinawag siya ni David na Lord bakit tinawag nyong anak ni David. Hope it make sense. Sana basahin nyo para makilala nyo si Jesus. Magpakilala si Jesus personally kaya personal din natin siyang kilalanin. "He did not come 2000 years ago to make us good He came to give Life to our dead Soul.
 
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6 Sinabi rin niya sa akin, “Naganap na! Ako ang Alpha at ang Omega, ang simula at ang wakas. Ang sinumang nauuhaw ay bibigyan ko ng tubig na walang bayad mula sa bukal na nagbibigay-buhay. 7 Ito ang makakamtan ng magtatagumpay: ako'y magiging Diyos niya at siya nama'y magiging anak ko. 8 Subalit para naman sa mga duwag, mga taksil, mga gumagawa ng mga kasuklam-suklam na bagay, mga mamamatay-tao, mga nakikiapid, mga mangkukulam, mga sumasamba sa diyus-diyosan, at sa lahat ng mga sinungaling—ang magiging bahagi nila'y sa lawa ng nagliliyab na apoy at asupre. Ito ang pangalawang kamatayan.”

SINO TINUKOY NA MAGIGING DIYOS NG MGA MAGTATAGUMPAY SA PAHAYAG 21:6-8??

sino nagsabi sa iyo ang Ama ang tinukoy dito??


maling mali ang paliwanag mo
 
Zwackin said:
6 Sinabi rin niya sa akin, “Naganap na! Ako ang Alpha at ang Omega, ang simula at ang wakas. Ang sinumang nauuhaw ay bibigyan ko ng tubig na walang bayad mula sa bukal na nagbibigay-buhay. 7 Ito ang makakamtan ng magtatagumpay: ako'y magiging Diyos niya at siya nama'y magiging anak ko. 8 Subalit para naman sa mga duwag, mga taksil, mga gumagawa ng mga kasuklam-suklam na bagay, mga mamamatay-tao, mga nakikiapid, mga mangkukulam, mga sumasamba sa diyus-diyosan, at sa lahat ng mga sinungaling—ang magiging bahagi nila'y sa lawa ng nagliliyab na apoy at asupre. Ito ang pangalawang kamatayan.”

SINO TINUKOY NA MAGIGING DIYOS NG MGA MAGTATAGUMPAY SA PAHAYAG 21:6-8??

sino nagsabi sa iyo ang Ama ang tinukoy dito??


maling mali ang paliwanag mo
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alpha at omega..ano ba pinagkaintindi mo jan?bakit amg salitang yan ang pilit mong pinaniniwalaan?bakit hindi yong salita nya na kaylan man d nya sinabi na sya ang panginoon
 
Sa mga trinitarian po dito kung kaya nyo panindigan yang paniniwala nyo pakisagot nyo nga po lahat to

Questions For Those Who Believe in the Trinity



If Jesus is Almighty God...



1. Then why is "God head of Christ just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3)



2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a separate person from God? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.)

3. Then how can Jesus have a God? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

4. Then why does Scripture say he was born and is part of Creation? (Col. 1:15)


5. Then why does Rev. 3:14 say that Jesus is "the beginning of the creation of God"?



6. Then why is he subject to GOD, like we're subject to him? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28; Eph. 1:17)



7. Then why does Micah 5:2 say that Jesus' ORIGIN was “from early times”?



8. Then why does Jesus not know what God knows? (Matt. 24:36, Rev.1:1; Luke 8:45)



9. Then why is Jesus still subject to God when he is as high as he will ever be? (1 Cor. 15:27, 28)


10. Then why does Proverbs 8:22-31 show that the Messiah was CREATED / PRODUCED by God?

11. Then why is he not powerful enough to subject things to himself? (1 Cor. 15:27, Eph. 1:17, 22)

12. Then why would he have to be given any power and authority? (Mt. 28:18; 11:27; Jn. 5:22; 17:2; 3:35; 2 Pet. 1:17)

13. Then why did he have to learn anything? (Heb. 5:8; John 5:19; 8:28)

14. Then why is speaking against him not as bad as speaking against the Holy Spirit? (Mt. 12:31,32; Luke 12:10)

15. Then why did Jesus call the "Father...the only true God"? (John 17:3)


16. Then why did he need to be saved? (Heb. 5:7; John 12:27)


17. Then why did he have to be exalted to Leader and Savior? (Acts 5:31)



18. Then how could he be exalted and given a higher name than he had? (Phil. 2:9-11; Heb. 1:2-4)


19. Then why did he have to be given life in himself? (John 5:25,26)


20. Then how can the Father be greater than he? (John 14:28)


21. Then how could Jesus be tempted by Satan when God cannot be tempted with evil? (James 1:13)

22. Then why did he worship the Father? (John 4:22)

23. Then why can he not do anything on his own? (John 5:19; 6:38)

24. Then why would he pray to anybody? (Luke 22:44; John 17:1,2; Heb. 5:7)

25. Then why do John 1:18 and 1 John 4:9 say that Jesus is God's "only BEGOTTEN Son"? ASV

26. Then how can he be God's servant? (Acts 4:26,27,30)

27. Then how could he receive strength from an angel? (Luke 22:43)


28. Then how could he be a mediator between God and man? (1 Tim. 2:5)



29. Then how could he be with God (ton theon)? (John 1:1)



30. Then how can he be God's image? (Col. 1:15; Heb. 1:3)



31. Then why is he called the agency (dia) of creation and not the Originator (ek)? (1 Cor. 8:6; John 1:1-3; Prov. 8:30; Heb. 2:10; Col. 1:15,16)

32. Then why did Jesus say GOD was "good" in a way that Jesus was not? (Mark 10:18)

33. Then why does he have an archangel's voice instead of God's voice? (1 Thess. 4:16)

34. Then why is the only "worship" given to him the same given to humans? (Heb. 1:6, cf. Mt. 18:26; Rev. 3:9 - "Proskuneo")

35. Then why do many who believe this rely on a few selected, so-called 'proof-texts' instead of the context of the consistent teaching of the entire Bible?

36. Then how could he be commanded to do anything? (John 12:49; Deut. 18:18)

37. Then why did Steven see two separate entities, GOD and Jesus, and not just one God or three persons? (Acts 7:55)

38. Then how could he be seen at GOD's right hand? (Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Rom. 8:34)

39. Then how could Jesus be exalted (not to become God Himself, but) to the position of the "right hand OF God"? (Acts 2:33)

40. Then why would he have to receive a revelation from God? (Rev.1:1)

41. Then why is he called God's "begotten" Son before he came to earth? (John 3:16; Gal. 4:4; 1 John 4:9)

42. Then how could he have a Father? (John 20:17)



43. Then how could he come in flesh? (1 Kings 8:27; Acts 17:24,25)



44. Then why did he not come in his own name? (John 5:41-44)



45. Then why did Jesus "come down from heaven to do" God's will and not his own will? (Luke 22:42; John 6:38; John 5:30; John 8:42)



46. Then how could he appear before GOD? (Heb. 9:24)


47. Then how could he die? Can God die? Can part of God die? (Rom. 5:10; Acts 5:30; 1 Cor. 15:3; Hab.1:12; cf. 1 Tim. 6:16; Num. 23:19; Ps. 90:2; Dan. 6:25-26)



48. Then why is it that God resurrected Jesus? (Acts 2:32)

49. Then why can we see him if "no man has seen God at any time"? (John 1:18)

50. Then why is there not one clear Scripture where Jesus is called "God the Son," (equal to those declaring "God, the Father)?

51. How is it that the Jews rounded up some false witnesses to make up lies to obtain a death sentence for Jesus, but neither the Jewish officials nor even one of these false witnesses made a claim that he was God or equally God? (Matt. 26:59-67)


52. John summed up his whole Gospel by saying that it was written that we may believe "that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God." Why is there is no mention in that summary of the entire Gospel of what would be the most important thing of all - that Jesus is God? (John 20:31)



53. How could Jesus teach in the Jewish synagogues and the temple? This would never happen if any of the authorities believed he claimed to be God (or that his followers believed such a thing). - Matt. 26:55; John 7:14, 28. Matt. 4:23.

54. How could Jesus' followers teach in Jewish synagogues after Jesus' death and for the remainder of that first century (at least)? Again, this would not have been allowed if there were any suspicion that they believed Jesus to be God. Acts 9:20; 13:5, Acts 13:13-15.


If the Holy Spirit is Almighty God...

1. Then why do quotes from Trinitarians admit that the Holy Spirit is not God but rather is a force from God?


2. Then why would Jews instructed in the Old Testament scriptures and in the teachings of John the Baptist, NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS? (Acts 19:2)



3. Then why isn't the Holy Spirit given equal description in the Bible?



4. Then why didn't Jesus ever teach that the Holy Spirit was God along with the Father and Son?



5. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as an "it"? (Is. 34:16 ASV, KJV; Numbers 11:17, 25 ASV, KJV, RSV, NRSV, AT, LB, NEB, REB, NAB, JB, NJB; and Romans 8:16, 26 in the KJV.)



6. Then why does the Bible describe the Holy Spirit as a thing that can be poured out into portions? (Acts 2:17, 18, 33; Numbers 11:17, 25)



7. Then why is the holy spirit nameless and indistinguishable from all of the other holy spirits?



8. Then why did the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD disregard the Holy Spirit as a member of the Godhead when they made Jesus 'God' in 325 AD? Why did they wait until the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD to include the Holy Spirit in the formula?

9. Then wouldn't the water and blood be persons too according to Trinitarian reasoning and 1 John 5:8?

10. Then why is the Holy Spirit sandwiched between a list of QUALITIES at 2 Cor. 6:6?

11. Then why does the NT Greek Lexicon describes the Holy Spirit as "this" at Acts 2:33?

12. Then why is it that nowhere in the Bible is the Holy Spirit ever said to be an equal member of a trinity?


13. Then why is it that nowhere is it mentioned in the Bible the words, "God, the Holy Spirit," or "The Holy Spirit is God"?



14. Then why is it that there is never mentioned a vision, dream or clear description in scripture wherein God and the Holy Spirit are shown as the same person?

If the Trinity Doctrine is a Bible teaching...

1. Then why do NUMEROUS encyclopedias agree that

"... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity"? – p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D.

2. Then why do many encyclopedias, dictionaries and other sources (including Sir Isaac Newton) agree that the "Trinity was a pagan corruption imposed on Christianity in the fourth century by Athanasius"?

3. Then why does the Bible consistently identify God by singular person pronouns: "I, "Me," "He, and "Him" instead of "We", "Us", "They" or "Them"?

4. Then why does 2 Cor. 13:14 say that the Lord Jesus Christ is one individual, the Holy Spirit is another individual (whether a person or a thing), and that "GOD" IS ANOTHER DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL?

5. Then why is there not even one Scripture which clearly defines the Trinity?

6. Then why is there not even one Scripture of a vision, dream, or CLEAR description wherein God is shown as three persons?

7. Then why is there not even one Scripture where God is described using the word "three"?
 

Sino ang Antikristo?​

Ang sagot ng Bibliya​

Ang antikristo ay hindi lang basta isang indibiduwal o partikular na grupo, dahil sinasabi ng Bibliya na “maraming antikristo.” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Ang salitang “antikristo,” na nagmula sa salitang Griego na nangangahulugang “laban kay (o kahalili ni) Kristo,” ay tumutukoy sa sinuman na gumagawa ng mga sumusunod:
  • Ikinakaila na si Jesus ang Kristo (Mesiyas) o na siya ang Anak ng Diyos.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
  • Lumalaban sa Kristo, ang Pinahiran ng Diyos.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
  • Nagpapanggap na siya ang Kristo.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
  • Pinag-uusig ang mga tagasunod ni Kristo, yamang para kay Jesus, siya mismo ang inuusig kapag pinag-uusig ang mga tagasunod niya.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
  • Nag-aangking Kristiyano pero mapanlinlang naman o manggagawa ng katampalasanan.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
Bukod sa gayong mga indibiduwal, tinutukoy rin ng Bibliya ang mga ito sa kabuuan bilang “ang antikristo.” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Unang lumitaw ang antikristo noong panahon ng mga apostol at mayroon pa ring antikristo hanggang ngayon. Inihula ng Bibliya na talagang mangyayari iyan.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Kung paano makikilala ang mga antikristo​

  • Itinataguyod nila ang maling mga ideya tungkol kay Jesus. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Halimbawa, ang mga nagtuturo ng You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. o na si Jesus ang Diyos na Makapangyarihan-sa-lahat ay hindi umaayon sa mga turo ni Jesus, na nagsabi: “Ang Ama ay mas dakila kaysa sa akin.”—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
  • Hindi tinatanggap ng mga antikristo ang sinabi ni Jesus tungkol sa paraan ng pagkilos ng Kaharian ng Diyos. Halimbawa, ayon sa ilang lider ng relihiyon, kumikilos si Kristo sa pamamagitan ng mga gobyerno ng tao. Pero salungat ito sa sinabi mismo ni Jesus: “Ang kaharian ko ay hindi bahagi ng sanlibutang ito.”—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
  • Sinasabi nila na si Jesus ang kanilang Panginoon, pero hindi naman nila sinusunod ang mga utos niya, gaya ng pangangaral ng mabuting balita ng Kaharian.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
 

Saan nagmula ang turong ito?​

“Pagkatapos ng lahat ng pagsusuri, ang doktrina ng Trinidad ay naimbento lamang pala noong huling bahagi ng ika-4 na siglo. At totoo naman ito . . . Ang ideyang ‘tatlong Persona sa iisang Diyos’ ay walang matibay na saligan, at tiyak na hindi lubusang tinanggap ng mga Kristiyano, bago matapos ang ika-4 na siglo.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Tomo 14, pahina 299.
“Nagtipon noong Mayo 20, 325 [C.E.] ang Konseho ng Nicaea. Si Constantino mismo ang nangasiwa, anupat minaniobra niya ang mga talakayan, at ipinanukala . . . ang mahalagang ideya hinggil sa kaugnayan ni Kristo sa Diyos ayon sa kredong pinalabas ng konseho, na ‘ang Ama at si Kristo ay iisa.’ . . . Dahil sa takot sa emperador, ang mga obispo, maliban sa dalawa, ay pumirma sa kredo kahit labag ito sa kanilang kalooban.”—Encyclopædia Britannica (1970), Tomo 6, pahina 386.

Ano ang sinasabi ng Bibliya?​

“Puspos ng Espiritu Santo, tumingin si Esteban sa langit at nakita ang kaluwalhatian ng Dios. Naroon si Jesus, nakatayo sa kanang kamay ng Dios. ‘Tingnan ninyo,’ wika niya, ‘Nakikita kong bukas ang langit at ang Anak ng Tao na nakatayo sa kanang kamay ng Dios.’”—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., Ang Biblia, Bagong Salin sa Pilipino.
Ano ang ipinahihiwatig ng pangitaing ito? Puspos ng aktibong puwersa ng Diyos, nakita ni Esteban si Jesus na “nakatayo sa kanang kamay ng Dios.” Kaya maliwanag, hindi naging Diyos si Jesus nang buhayin siyang muli bilang ibang espiritung persona. Sa ulat na ito, walang binanggit na ikatlong persona sa tabi ng Diyos. Sa kabila ng mga pagsisikap na makakita ng mga teksto na susuporta sa turo ng Trinidad, ganito ang isinulat ng paring Dominiko na si Marie-Émile Boismard sa kaniyang aklat na À l’aube du christianisme—La naissance des dogmes (Ang Pasimula ng Kristiyanismo—Ang Pagsilang ng mga Doktrina): “Ang pananalitang tatlong persona sa iisang Diyos . . . ay wala sa Bagong Tipan.”
Ang turong itinaguyod ni Constantino ay nilayon para tapusin ang di-pagkakasundo sa Simbahan noong ikaapat na siglo.
 
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Sino ang mas malalas ang diyos ba o ang demonyo?
Kung ire-rate mo power nila from 1 - 10 ilan kaya?

I hope your honest answer. . .
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Sagutin kita gamit ang bible verse.. unawain mo nalang para makita mo sagot dyan sa tanong mo.

At sumiklab ang digmaan sa langit: Si Miguel at ang mga anghel niya ay nakipagdigma sa dragon, at ang dragon at ang mga anghel nito ay nakipagdigma, pero hindi nagtagumpay ang mga ito, at wala na silang lugar pa sa langit. Kaya inihagis ang malaking dragon, ang orihinal na ahas, ang tinatawag na Diyablo at Satanas, na nagliligaw sa buong mundo; inihagis siya sa lupa, at ang mga anghel niya ay inihagis na kasama niya.
Dahil dito ay matuwa kayo, O langit at kayong mga nakatira diyan! Kaawa-awa ang lupa at ang dagat, dahil ang Diyablo ay bumaba na sa inyo na galit na galit, dahil alam niyang kaunti na lang ang panahong natitira sa kaniya.”

-Apocalipsis 12:7-9,12
 
[XX='wesliearielle, c: 887215, m: 570322'][/XX] May website ata sila copy paste halos lahat ng post nya parang naka program. And this group so called witness sila yong may dalang leaflets namimigay. Ang thought sa leaflets Jesus is not God. Pinipilit nilang si Jehova. Ang founder nila si Charles Taze Russell nagsimula sa Bible study. Meron silang tinatawag na watch tower. Sa 18th century sila nag simula. At ito yong mga nakakatakot na belief nila.

  • God has only 1 name Jehova (you can research how this name comes-up sa ibang translation. Check nyo na lang po ang Septuagint)
  • They don't believe Father Son and Holy Spirit (if God revail this to you don't need to explain to them)
  • Jesus Christ was the created archangel michael before the world began. (di ko maipaliwanag bakit ganito ang naging idea ni Charles Taze)
  • Jesus Christ Resurrection was spiritual and not physical. (baka na erase sa book nila yong pinapatusok ni Jesus yong kamay nya na may butas katibayan na siya)
  • Holy Spirit is not God but external force. (Sa movie ng starwars meron i can't explain)
  • Only 144,000 anointed people will be in heaven. (Hindi ko rin alam paano nabilang ni Mr. Taze to) if buhay pa sya this time baka masagot nya tayo.
 
San mo naman nakuha tsismis na si russel founder ng mga jw? Abay kahit copy paste yan, yan ang paniniwala ko na nakasalig sa katotohanan eh yung mga nahagap mo ay puro tsismis hindi mo muna inalam kung totoo hahahah.
 
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