The immaculate conception isn’t about Mary becoming pre̾gnant with Jesus, it’s the conception of Mary by her mother, but without sin. Mary had to be a pure spiritual vessel to carry Jesus, so she couldn’t be born with sin.
Only the lamb of God, Jesus, was born without sin. A spotless sacrificed in behalf of sinful man. Mary wasn't sacrificed, she need not to be sinless. In fact, Marry went on to have more children.
ehehe extra knowledge din ito boss, malay mo itanong sa iyo 'to ng chix mo edi pogi points na if alam natin tamang sagot dito hahaalam mo kung bakit marami kang problema? kasi lahat pinoproblema mo, hindi mo kailangan problemahin ang mga bagay sa mundo. just chill tara sama ka
easy peasy sagot jan, kapag tinanong ka t di mo alam ang sagot, sagutin mo ng tanongehehe extra knowledge din ito boss, malay mo itanong sa iyo 'to ng chix mo edi pogi points na if alam natin tamang sagot dito haha
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pero boss papaano ngayon naging sinless yung batang hesus eh yung mama niya makasalanan?Hindi yan totoo. Walang basehan sa bible na ganyan nga ang sinasabi. IN FACT, mismong ang bible ang nagpapakitang kahit si Maria ay nagmana ng kasalanan MULA kay Adan. Paano?
Pinatunayan ni Maria na siya ay makasalanan nang maghandog siya ng nagbabayad-salang hain na hinihiling sa mga ina sa Kautusang Mosaiko (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). Hindi rin nanatiling V1R_G1N si Maria pagkatapos niya ipanganak si Jesus gaya ng tinuturo ng simbahan at ng ibang religion.
Turo lang yan ng simbahan. Hindi yan turo ng bible. NAPAKALAYO ng dalawang iyan. Hindi porket tinuturo ng simbahan o ng isang religion eh totoo na. Doon ka mag base sa sinasabi ng bible. Kung wala itong contradiction sa buong bible, that's it.
pero boss papaano ngayon naging sinless yung batang hesus eh yung mama niya makasalanan?
LUCAS 1:34-37 - "Pero sinabi ni Maria sa anghel: “Paano ito mangyayari? Wala pa akong asawa.” You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. Sumagot ang anghel: “Sasaiyo ang banal na espiritu, at lililiman ka ng kapangyarihan ng Kataas-taasan. Kaya ang isisilang mo ay tatawaging banal, Anak ng Diyos. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. Nagdadalang-tao rin ang kamag-anak mong si Elisabet. Anim na buwan na niyang ipinagbubuntis ang isang anak na lalaki, kahit matanda na siya at tinatawag na babaeng baog; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. dahil walang imposible sa Diyos.”
MATEO 1:20,21 - "Pero matapos pag-isipan ni Jose ang mga bagay na ito, ang anghel ni Jehova ay nagpakita sa kaniya sa panaginip at nagsabi: “Jose, anak ni David, huwag kang matakot na pakasalan si Maria, dahil nagdadalang-tao siya sa pamamagitan ng banal na espiritu. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. Siya ay magsisilang ng isang anak na lalaki, at Jesus ang ipapangalan mo sa kaniya,You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. dahil ililigtas niya ang kaniyang bayan mula sa kanilang mga kasalanan.”
ah so ibig sabihin idinagdag lang yung doctrine ng sinless mary? sino naman nag dagdag nun? yung pope?Simple lang, although malamang hindi mo rin to maintindihan o tanggapin.
Ang sagot ay dahil sa Banal na Espiritu ng Diyos (o kapangyarihan ng Diyos) kaya naingatan si Jesus sa kasalanan ni Adan ng ipaglihi siya ni Maria.
Hindi nagtalik si Jose at Maria para mabuo si Jesus. Kaya hindi siya dumaan sa normal na process para mamana niya yung kasalanan ng tao mula kay Adan.
ah so ibig sabihin idinagdag lang yung doctrine ng sinless mary? sino naman nag dagdag nun? yung pope?
sana merong mag reply na catholic dito kung anu ba talaga pinag babasihan nila kasi lumalabas na Roman Catholic theology does not base itself exclusively on the bible but also accepts what their group terms “Oral Tradition” as part of divine revelation.Hindi ko pa na-research kung sino nag start at kailan "exactly" naging paniniwala yan. Ang sigurado ay pinasimulan yan ituro ng catholic o simbahan ng walang basehan sa Bible
Sila ang nagdagdag ng turo na yan, hindi ang bible. Magkaiba po yan
Marami pang turo ang idinagdag nila na walang basehan sa bible. Example...
1. Mother of God - paniniwala nila yan dahil pinapaniwalaan nila yung trinity, na hindi naman itinuturo ng bible
2. V1rg1n Mary - nanatili raw ****** si Maria e hindi naman
3. St.Mary - nagdadasal sila kay Maria pero hindi naman yan tinuturo ng bible na dapat magdalasal sa kaniya
at iba pa
sana merong mag reply na catholic dito kung anu ba talaga pinag babasihan nila kasi lumalabas na Roman Catholic theology does not base itself exclusively on the bible but also accepts what their group terms “Oral Tradition” as part of divine revelation.
kasi boss di naman siguro nila gagawin iyon kung mali iyon so for sure meron din silang reason kung bakit iyon ang tamang gawin for themDi pa po ba halata na karamihan sa beliefs nila ay based on tradition? Isa pang example ay every January ginagawa yung pag iikot nung itim na nazareno nila. Kailangan po ba yun? Saan sa bible yun?
Hehe anyway, wala naman na ko jan kung ano pa isagot nila. Ipinakita ko lang sayo na hindi totoo yung turo ng simbahan sa immaculate conception na beliefs nila. Hindi yan naka base sa bible. Hindi yan itinuturo ng bible. Sobrang magkaiba niyan kaya sana po wag isisi agad sa bible kung bakit may ganyang paniniwala ang isang religion tapos ang sisi agad ay sa bible
kasi boss di naman siguro nila gagawin iyon kung mali iyon so for sure meron din silang reason kung bakit iyon ang tamang gawin for them
pero possible pa din na para sa kanila boss ay hindi tama na sa bible lang umiikot ang practices nila kasi nga every christian religion is against sa mali diba, against sin kumbagaSila narin naman po ang nagsasabi diba na tradition lang yung iba sa beliefs nila? Tradition. Hindi ibig sabihin na may tradition po sila ay "naka based" na po iyon sa bible.
Maybe "tamang gawin" iyon para sa kanila gaya narin ng sinabi mo po. Pero hindi ibig sabihin non na porket may ganoong tradition sila sa religion nila at tama iyon "para sa kanila", ay based na ito sa bible or agree na ang bible sa tradition na iyon. Again, magkaiba po yang dalawa na yan.
“Then the Lord said to Moses, ‘Make a snake image and mount it on a pole. When anyone who is bitten looks at it, he will recover.’ So Moses made a bronze snake and mounted it on a pole. Whenever someone was bitten, and he looked at the bronze snake, he recovered.’”kasi boss di naman siguro nila gagawin iyon kung mali iyon so for sure meron din silang reason kung bakit iyon ang tamang gawin for them
what exactly ang pino-point out mo dito boss?“Then the Lord said to Moses, ‘Make a snake image and mount it on a pole. When anyone who is bitten looks at it, he will recover.’ So Moses made a bronze snake and mounted it on a pole. Whenever someone was bitten, and he looked at the bronze snake, he recovered.’”
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Spoiler alert: Someone was mount on a pole in the new testament.
“Then the Lord said to Moses, ‘Make a snake image and mount it on a pole. When anyone who is bitten looks at it, he will recover.’ So Moses made a bronze snake and mounted it on a pole. Whenever someone was bitten, and he looked at the bronze snake, he recovered.’”
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Spoiler alert: Someone was mount on a pole in the new testament.
pero possible pa din na para sa kanila boss ay hindi tama na sa bible lang umiikot ang practices nila kasi nga every christian religion is against sa mali diba, against sin kumbaga
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