Before I get to the objections. Let me say this,
Common sense to interpret the scriptures? Really? Are you kidding me? Hermeneutics and Exegesis are the standards of how to interpret the scriptures. Context is the key. Common sense is more like a personal interpretation of the scriptures.
Tip: Study your scriptures not by common sense you will lose its credibility.
Firstborn of all creation, does not mean He is the first that was created. Again, context is the key. Paul then continues to say that by this Jesus, all things was created. And all this things whether invisible or visible was created through Him and for Him. This is connected to (John 1:1-3). That's why from verse 15-20 are connected for us to understand it by context. I doubt that you can interpret John 1:1-3 or the whole chapter correctly.
TIP: Don't used you own Bible translation because it added more to the original manuscripts. NASB/ESV is one of the most accurately Bible translation to date. Study kasi pag may time. Wag lang puro listen lang sa anong sinasabi sa mga leaders nyo.
Again, basa2 din with comprehention. The point of Philippians 2:10-11. Is to show that if God commanded the Jews to worship Him only. Even Jesus thought His disciples the same manner. Why would Jesus have the same manner as to be worship? If you know who God is, He will never ever give to anyone His glory and honor much more the Idea of worship.
"By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’
Isaiah 45:23 ESV
---This is connected to Philippians 2:10-11.
---- Philippians 2:1-11. This is the context. Paul was encouraging the Philippians church to imitate and tell them about the Humility of Jesus Christ. Even He is God(v6) humbled himself as to a level as human to save humility. Read it again.
⁸But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. ⁹You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”
Hebrews 1:8-9 ESV
-- How do you reconcile this verse to your common sense theology?
p.s. there are so many inside the scriptures that support of the Deity of Jesus Christ. Lets just go one at a time. Where just scratching the tip of the ice berg here.
Hehehe bible niyo na nga yung ginamit ko e, nag reklamo ka pa. Saka pogi, daming mali sa King James e. Kahit yang sinasabi mong NASB na accurate to date kamo? Lol. Kakatawa naman. Di na ko magtaka bakit puro contradiction yung explanation niyo. Hekhek. May pa hermeneutics and exegesis ka pang nalalaman. I know na dapat sa CONTEXT ka mag based. At sasabayan mo yan ng common sense at tamang analysis para makuha mo ang tamang conclusion.
Sinasabi mong hindi ka dapat mag interpret pero ikaw mismo nag interpret by saying: "
Firstborn of all creation, does not mean He is the first that was created."
Kahit anong dictionary ang basahin mo, iisa lang ang kahulugan niyan wag mo ikut-ikutin pogi. Firstborn ay may STARTING POINT. In tagalog, PANGANAY. Gets? Good. According to Psalms 90:2,
ang Diyos ay WALANG STARTING POINT. Malinaw yan. Yan ang description sa Diyos,
pero kay Jesus, ang sinabi, firstborn of ALL CREATION. Creation, from the word "create". But wait, akala ko ba sabi ng bible everlasting to everlasting ang Diyos. Pero
si Jesus pala ay "
CREATED". See? You have a problem there pogi.
Sa Colossians 1:16,17 na paborito niyo, ang sabi ay... "And all this things whether invisible or visible was created
THROUGH Him and for Him" (bible niyo). In tagalog, "
SA PAMAMAGITAN". Nakakita ka na ba ng tulay or any infrastructure na nakalagay "Ang tulay na ito ay proyekto ni Juan Dela Cruz" or any similar messages na pinatutungkol sa project ng isang pulitiko. Tanong ko lang, si Juan Dela Cruz ba talaga yung nagbuhos at halo ng simento, nagsukat ng taas, naglatag ng bakal at hallow blocks, etc para lang maitayo yung project na yun? Di naman diba? Paano kaya nabuo yung isang infrastructure na yun kung ganon? Yes.
THROUGH engineers, contraction workers, etc.
Sa John 1:3 na binigay mong verse, ano daw yung pagkakasabi dun? Again, gamit ka kasi ng matinong translation ng bible. Pero sige, pwede na yung NASB. Sabi ay "All things came into being
THROUGH Him, and apart from Him [
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sa pamamagitan niya". But okay sige na nga
WALA kang mababasa kahit saan sa bible na ang Diyos ay may starting point. Pero si Jesus, meron. That's a fact. Malinaw yan.
Sa Philippians 2:9-11, ano daw ang sabi?
1. God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name.
- Sino ang nag taas kay Jesus jan? Sarili ba ni Jesus? No. Yung Diyos mismo. Tanong: Pwede ka bang i promote ng ka-level mo lang or ng mas mababa sayo? Common sense. Yes or no? Of course NO. Meaning, MAS MATAAS ang Diyos kay Jesus kasi na promote nga siya e. Next...
2. Kapag ba na-promote ka na, ibig sabihin ba na magiging PANTAY na kayo nung nag promote sayo? Pwede ba yun? Common sense again. Of course NO.
3. Wag mo kakalimutan palagi yung Philippians 2:5,6 kasi pogi. Mismong si Jesus HINDI NAG ISIP NA MAGING PANTAY SILA NG DIYOS. Pero kayong trinitarians and oneness pips ay isip ng isip at ginagawang pantay palagi si Jesus at yung Diyos? Pano niyo matutularan si Jesus niyan eh
sabi ni Paul tularan daw si Jesus sa MENTALITY niya?
Alam mo pa yung problema sa inyo? Talon kayo ng talon sa ibat-ibang verse para mag support kuno sa trinity beliefs. Pansin mo, nagba-base lang ako sa CONTEXT ng mga binibigay mong verse? Haist
Onga pala, tutal paborito niyo rin yung John 1:1 para i prove kuno yung trinity at ni-cite mo narin yan, bakit kaya sa John 1:18 sabi walang tao ang nakakita sa Diyos kailanman? Pero sa John 1:36, nakita ng mga tao si Jesus. Hahaha. Ohh, sasabihin niyo bang "yung katawang tao ang nakita nila hindi yung Diyos mismo?" lol. kala ko ba si Jesus din ang Diyos? Aaahh isa pa pala. Nung namatay pala si Jesus, patay din yung Diyos?
Isa pa pala. Yung sa 1 Corinto 15:27-28, alam mo bang kahit binigyan si Jesus ng mataas na authority ng Diyos, hindi pala kasama sa authority ni Jesus yung Diyos mismo na nagbigay sa kaniya nun? Yeah. Remember yung illustration ko about promotion? Hekhek. Oh.. tapos pala pogi, alam mo bang yung LAHAT NG AUTHORITY NI JESUS, isu-surrender pala niya yun sa Ama niya sa future? So pano na yung trinity at equal? Lol.
Where just scratching the tip of the ice berg here? Lol. Gasgas na gasgas na yang mga verse niyo po. No need na.
Malinaw mismo yung mga turo ni Jesus na mas GREATER yung Ama niya over him kaya wag niyo na ipagpilitan na gawin silang pantay. Kung ayaw niyong tularan yung mentality ni Jesus dahil ginagawa niyong EQUAL sila ng Ama niya, kung masaya na kayo jan sa puro contradiction niyong beliefs, eh sige po enjoy ka lang jan.