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no0bw1z4rd said:
bakit hindi nalang po niya e-oopen lahat ng kaisipan ng sangkataohan? bat ipapadaan pa niya sa pasikot-sikot? para lang talaga na kikilanin sya kung anu siya?
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After sin entered, man lost his way, no longer did he understand God. Losing his wonderful thought-life, the thoughts of God, man fell down to the low road. On that low road he was not going to understand God, understand how and why He works. Now discouragement and depression were man’s nagging companions.
 
no0bw1z4rd said:
bakit hindi nalang po niya e-oopen lahat ng kaisipan ng sangkataohan? bat ipapadaan pa niya sa pasikot-sikot? para lang talaga na kikilanin sya kung anu siya?
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After sin entered, man lost his way, no longer did he understand God. Losing his wonderful thought-life, the thoughts of God, man fell down to the low road. On that low road he was not going to understand God, understand how and why He works. Now discouragement and depression were man’s nagging companions.
 
Faith is a gift from God. The Bible declares that God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith (Romans 12:3). Yet some children of God don’t think they have faith. To have God, you must have faith; God is a faith God. Live with that faith, by that faith, and in the Word of God if you want to understand God. Without faith you don’t have God no matter what you say.
 
krixx122 said:
Faith is a gift from God. The Bible declares that God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith (Romans 12:3). Yet some children of God don’t think they have faith. To have God, you must have faith; God is a faith God. Live with that faith, by that faith, and in the Word of God if you want to understand God. Without faith you don’t have God no matter what you say.
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bakit pa po meni-measure niya ang faith ng isang tao ngayong alam naman po niyang sino yung matatag at mahihina ang pananampalataya? kung ime-measure ba niya ang panampalataya ng isang tao.. magbabago ba ang kalalabasan ng kanyang pananaw sa resulta ng hinaharap?
 
Romans 12:3 Sapagka't sinasabi ko, sa pamamagitan ng biyaya na sa akin ay ibinigay, sa bawa't tao sa inyo, na huwag magisip sa kaniyang sarili ng totoong matayog kay sa nararapat niyang isipin; kundi magisip na may kahinahunan, ayon sa kasukatan ng pananampalataya na ibinahagi ng Dios sa bawa't isa.

Ito yung isa sa pinakamagandang texto (bold texts) na pwedeng nating magagamit sa pang-araw2, sa kung anong relihiyon man ang kinabibilangan mo. Approve to sa akin.

Ang textong ito ay tungkol sa pag papakumbaba, taliwas ng sabi mong pananampalataya po.
 
krixx122 said:
Faith is a gift from God. The Bible declares that God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith (Romans 12:3). Yet some children of God don’t think they have faith. To have God, you must have faith; God is a faith God. Live with that faith, by that faith, and in the Word of God if you want to understand God. Without faith you don’t have God no matter what you say.
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Payo ko po sa inyo, paste nyo po ang buong texto nang hindi po kayo malito, marahil memorize mo lang po tong textong ito batay sa sabi2 ng kasama mo at hindi basi sa texto na galing talaga sa aklat.
 
no0bw1z4rd said:
He made them lost their mind po because he's the one who created the sins right from the start po.
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wla nman po cya gngwa na sin but mga laws po, according to old testament, syempri po common sense na may mga standard na dapat sundin sa buhay para hindi magulo peru c tao po ay magulo ang isip hindi mka intindi, tsaka free will tayu gusto mo bang mabuhay na para kang robot? gagawin ka ni God para lang utus utusan, peru pag free will hindi eh you choose
 
no0bw1z4rd said:
Payo ko po sa inyo, paste nyo po ang buong texto nang hindi po kayo malito, marahil memorize mo lang po tong textong ito batay sa sabi2 ng kasama mo at hindi basi sa texto na galing talaga sa aklat.
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own understanding ko po yan,inexplain ko lang ang verse po
 
krixx122 said:
wla nman po cya gngwa na sin but mga laws po, according to old testament, syempri po common sense na may mga standard na dapat sundin sa buhay para hindi magulo peru c tao po ay magulo ang isip hindi mka intindi, tsaka free will tayu gusto mo bang mabuhay na para kang robot? gagawin ka ni God para lang utus utusan, peru pag free will hindi eh you choose
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Noong panahon po ni adan at eva po, gumawa sya ng isang puno na ipinagbabawal, sa aking pagkakaintindi, ito yung puno na makasalanan, walang ibang may gawa noon kundi siya. Bakit nya po gagawin yung pagpapatubo ng isang punong ipinagbabawal na nakalagay pa sa gitna ng hardin? Anu yun? para pang dekorasyon lang? Ngayon ang tanong? sino ang nagkalulung para magkasala ang mga tao? E di ba sya mismo? Ginawa nyang laruan ang mga tao, e ang nangyari doon, na setup tayo sa kinikilala nating diyos ngayon.
 
tsaka magandang din yun mag exchange na convo, may mga matutunan teyu ,,hindi lang po gaya gaya
 
krixx122 said:
tsaka magandang din yun mag exchange na convo, may mga matutunan teyu ,,hindi lang po gaya gaya
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Tama, pwede naman siguro tayong magpalitan ng kaalaman nang hindi naag-aaway diba? :)
sino-sino pa ba ang magkakaintindihan, eh tayo lang mga tao na na nahulog sa isang patibung sa mundong ito ^_^
 
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no0bw1z4rd said:
Noong panahon po ni adan at eva po, gumawa sya ng isang puno na ipinagbabawal, sa aking pagkakaintindi, ito yung puno na makasalanan, walang ibang may gawa noon kundi siya. Bakit nya po gagawin yung pagpapatubo ng isang punong ipinagbabawal na nakalagay pa sa gitna ng hardin? Anu yun? para pang dekorasyon lang? Ngayon ang tanong? sino ang nagkalulung para magkasala ang mga tao? E di ba sya mismo? Ginawa nyang laruan ang mga tao, e ang nangyari doon, na setup tayo sa kinikilala nating diyos ngayon.
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God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice to obey Him or disobey Him. Adam and Eve were free to do anything they wanted, except eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 2:16-17, “And the LORD God commanded the man, ‘You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.’” If God had not given Adam and Eve the choice, they would have essentially been robots, simply doing what they were programmed to do. God created Adam and Eve to be “free” beings, able to make decisions, able to choose between good and evil. In order for Adam and Eve to truly be free, they had to have a choice.
 
krixx122 said:
God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice to obey Him or disobey Him. Adam and Eve were free to do anything they wanted, except eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 2:16-17, “And the LORD God commanded the man, ‘You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.’” If God had not given Adam and Eve the choice, they would have essentially been robots, simply doing what they were programmed to do. God created Adam and Eve to be “free” beings, able to make decisions, able to choose between good and evil. In order for Adam and Eve to truly be free, they had to have a choice.
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"God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice to obey Him or disobey Him"
bakit may ganun pa? alam naman niya kahit hindi pa niya ginawa ang tao, alam na alam na nya na ang mga tao ay susuway sa utos nya? anu yun? nag-aalinlangan siya sa taglay niyang kapangyarihan? na kailangan pa talaga nyang gumawa ng tao tapos e test kung tama ba ang kanyang pananaw sa hinaharap? na kung susuway ba ang mga ito sa kanyang utos o hindi?

"Adam and Eve were free to do anything they wanted"
kung totoo to, hindi na sana gumawa pa sya ng mga taong robot, bat pa niya bibigyan ng dahilan ang mga tao na magkasala, sana gumawa nalang sya ng taong open-minded na diba? eh yun din naman ang kakahantungan diba? ang lalabas eh magkakaroon din naman tayo ng free of choice di ba? nakakalito lang kung bakit ang dami pang daming pasakalye bago humantong doon? eh alam naman nyang dun din ang tuloy non. ^_^
 
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