Ano basehan mo? Yan kabobohan na bigbang theory? At yan ebolusyon?
Katangahan lahat yan wala pang napapatunayan ang mga yan
Closed Lucifer: analysis of the bible indicates he's the good guy
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Katangahan lahat yan wala pang napapatunayan ang mga yan
Ang nakakatawa sa inyo mga athiest pinaparatangan ninyo ang bagay na di umiiral
Di pala athiest ang tawag pala dapat mga denial
Di pala athiest ang tawag pala dapat mga denial
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take note they are well established paper and a lot of scientific explanations involve how about intelligent design? oh none nga pala
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uhm? you must have forget that there are lot of viruses out there nag hihintay ng tamang strain na makaka bypass satin immune system not mentioning natural disasters and not even mentioning the source of life in this planet (sun) is giving us cancer
Edit: oh yes muntik kuna makalimutan na kahit nga pala oxygen pinapatay tayo because of oxidation
yup aral ka muna talaga
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oh ok pero sure ako na nakakain ka na ng karne ng baboy or sea shells na alam na alam mo naman na bawal yun if nagbabasa ka talaga ng bible
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that's the very definition of atheism btw denying the existing of gods
Deny meaning alam nyo na mayroong umiiral kinakaila nyo lang o dinideny in english
Kung binasa mo ang bagong tipan makikita mo doon na pwede nang kumain ng karne ng baboy at mga pagkain katulad ng sea shells
Nilikha tayong may kamatayan ano ka?uhm? you must have forget that there are lot of viruses out there nag hihintay ng tamang strain na makaka bypass satin immune system not mentioning natural disasters and not even mentioning the source of life in this planet (sun) is giving us cancer
Edit: oh yes muntik kuna makalimutan na kahit nga pala oxygen pinapatay tayo because of oxidation
yup aral ka muna talaga
Dahil sa natural na proces ng oxidation naluluma ang mga bagay at ating karawan yan ang naturalesa anong inaakala mo ang material walang katapusan?
Kahit ang mga bituin na bilyong bilyong taon ng umiiral namamatay din na tulad ng tao
Di ko ma gets anong pinupunto mo tungkol dito ?
Kaunting kaisipan lang gagsmitin mo
Kung sinasabi mo na ang mundo trying to kill us bakit hanggang ngayon umiiral at dumadami parin ang tao?
Dapat noon pa na kakaunti ang tao dapat naging exstinct na tayo o nalipol na
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We deny the existence of god's because of lack of evidence to support that claim
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- #71
Ahem*
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19
“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)
“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)
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Well that's the poiny exactly if you didn't believe in evolution binigyan na kita ng sample of micro evolution at balik tayo sa intelligent design diba parang useless na yun mga natural disasters if it is indeed true bakit kapa gagawa ng ganyan eh divine plan pala yan diba
At we survived through adapting and evolving
Knowledege is meaningless and foolishness just like what you posted .you dont even have basis on what you are saying .Let me ask you are you there when those events happen. And also do you even read the whole bible ?and if so .Give me the verses that supports your ridiculous theory.
Lucifer .is the shining bright and morning star .but he wanted to be like God . (Read Matthew 4) This was how Lucifer tested Jesus .
Jesus was sent because the world was a big mess .
Because sins are everywhere .
He died to get all of that sin and finishef it all on the cross so we can live and not experience the second death .
Lucifer is a great deciever because he wants to have many souls to join with him in eternal death .
Lucifer .is the shining bright and morning star .but he wanted to be like God . (Read Matthew 4) This was how Lucifer tested Jesus .
Jesus was sent because the world was a big mess .
Because sins are everywhere .
He died to get all of that sin and finishef it all on the cross so we can live and not experience the second death .
Lucifer is a great deciever because he wants to have many souls to join with him in eternal death .
Lucifer -crab mentality
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everything I wrote was written in your bible lol meanwhile your god drowned the whole world by giving a man free will to be held accountable by his mistakes because it's all part of his divine plan which he knew what will happen anyway because he is the all knowing god, see the flaw already of your god now let me add that he himself created evil in the first place(Isaiah 45:7) now either that makes your god is not powerful and not all knowing or satan was his accomplice and just following your god's divine plan in that case your god is a jelous god
2. Jesus died for our sins oh your bible just contradicted itself again read psalm 49:7
Commendation po dito, but one thing, sir, there is no such entity or any angelic being being properly named as 'Lucifer' in 'person', for 'lucifer' in latin (vulgate) means anyone who shines bright as the morning star, lucis (shining light/torch). Wala po talagang 'Lucifer' na persona at hindi yan proper na pangngalan sa matandang ahas or devil na tinutukoy sa kasulatan, in fact kahit sino naabot ng katanyagan at naging dakila sa sangkalupaan (maging sa sangkalangitan) sinasabing mga 'bringer of light' sila ayon sa scriptures. Just trying to make a point sir, kahit si Hesus sa pahayag Sinabi Niya 'Ako ang maningning na tala sa umaga', just because Jesus Christ claimed being the true 'bringer of light', doesn't mean He's the same fallen devil 'lucifer' aka the fallen star mentioned in Isaiah, which could have been in reference to the King of Babylon, or the angel that spiritually governs or that had authority over the said former earthly domain.
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Wow. Interesting thread here at phc. Pahinga muna ako sa globe free net hehehe
Btw bukod kay ts, ano religion ng iba.
By the way im a Catholic, though nagkakaroon na ako ng mga katanungan sa isip ko sa mga naoobserbahan ko kaya ngayon no religion muna ako hehehe
Maayos na pagdedebate lang guys, be open minded lang po.
Btw bukod kay ts, ano religion ng iba.
By the way im a Catholic, though nagkakaroon na ako ng mga katanungan sa isip ko sa mga naoobserbahan ko kaya ngayon no religion muna ako hehehe
Maayos na pagdedebate lang guys, be open minded lang po.
Si satanas na ang tawag ay tala sa umaga ito sabi sa isaias ang nangyari kay lucifer(tala sa umaga)
Isaias 14:
12Ano't nahulog ka mula sa langit, Oh tala sa umaga, anak ng umaga! paanong ikaw ay lumagpak sa lupa, ikaw na siyang nagpahina sa mga bansa!
13At sinabi mo sa iyong sarili, Ako'y sasampa sa langit, aking itataas ang aking luklukan sa itaas ng mga bituin ng Dios; at ako'y uupo sa bundok ng kapisanan, sa mga kaduluduluhang bahagi ng hilagaan:
At ito naman ibang tawag ng ating Panginoong Hesus sa kaniyang sarili
Maningning na tala sa umaga
(Maningning)
Pahayag 22:
16Akong si Jesus ay nagsugo ng aking anghel upang sa inyo'y magpatotoo ng mga bagay na ito sa mga iglesia. Ako ang ugat at ang supling ni David, ang maningning na tala sa umaga.
Si lucifer o satanas ay tala lang sa umaga hindi maningning na tala sa umaga
Tama po kayo but to rightfully put it, lucifer means 'light bringer', does that mean Jesus the Christ is the same old Satan (Shaitan) the lucifer ('bright morning star') the devil mentioned in Isaiah?, definitely not, isa lamang po ang (maningning) na tala sa umaga (Jesus Christ), just because Lucifer assumed being the light bringer, he is just a plain 'bringer' of light, ang kanyang post ay inalis sa kanya dahil inakala Niya at inassume na sya mismo ang mismong 'light', which is blasphemy in a sense. Magkaiba po ang light bringer sa mismong light(source) itself. Ang katungkulan ay naiaalis at naipapasa, especially if merong negligence sa ating responsibility Ika nga. Yan ang nangyari sa mga fallen angel for neglecting their duty at iniwan ang kanilang dating kalagayan (post) at bumaba sila to defile the lands to assume godly status on earth. Example na lang sa workplace setting (sabihin natin sa isang assembly line) lahat ay expected to perform their assigned tasks faithfully and if anyone neglect their part the system will collapse and eventually disaster is inevitable, kaya don't think the blame is on God alone for the great flood, 1/3 of the blame goes to the fallen angels, the supposed to be Light 'bringers', but they act as if they were the Light itself. For God alone is the Light.
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Tama ka nakasulat sa Bible na iniwan ng mga anghel ang kanilang tahanan yong mga anghel na nagrebelde sa Dios
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
At noong unang panahon na corrupted ang lahi ng tao dahil sa mga anghel na suwail
Kaya ginunaw ang mga taong masasama noon dahil nahaluan ng masasamang anghel ang lahi ng tao
Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
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