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[Jyushinshuu]

there is a committee in the senate which has the power to conduct inquiries & investigations and that is the committee on public order & dangerous drugs, it is dressed by the constitution with that kind of power, the media just got it wrong, it is not a hearing like a setup in court but just a senate inquiry

I disagree, total grandstanding lang ginagawa nila, what is the point in all that? In aid of legislation daw pero wala naman silang ginagawang batas. May isang senador pa nga doon nga puro ad hominem lang ginawaga. May inquiry siya sa isa sa mga informant doon na colonel, pinapapili kung alin siya sa dalwa, "B0bo or Corrupt" Ganon ba ang tamang process ng inquiry sa senado? Pag di nila na gustohan sagot diretso contempt ka agad. Kulong without due process.

SEC. 1. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor shall any person be denied the equal protection of the laws.

 

[plhbg1]

I disagree, total grandstanding lang ginagawa nila, what is the point in all that? In aid of legislation daw pero wala naman silang ginagawang batas. May isang senador pa nga doon nga puro ad hominem lang ginawaga. May inquiry siya sa isa sa mga informant doon na colonel, pinapapili kung alin siya sa dalwa, "B0bo or Corrupt" Ganon ba ang tamang process ng inquiry sa senado? Pag di nila na gustohan sagot diretso contempt ka agad. Kulong without due process.

SEC. 1. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor shall any person be denied the equal protection of the laws.

can you point me to the exact document stating na meron silang pinakulong? sa iyo ko lang kasi narinig ang ganyang balita hehe

 

[vvictorr]

there is a committee in the senate which has the power to conduct inquiries & investigations and that is the committee on public order & dangerous drugs, it is dressed by the constitution with that kind of power, the media just got it wrong, it is not a hearing like a setup in court but just a senate inquiry

Kung senate inquiry lang to bakit kung ayaw ng mga senator yung sagot mo e i cocontempt ka. Saka ung mga maliliit na issue kailangan pang isenate hearing katulad ng ung 4k issue, simple labor case nagsayang pa ng pera taong bayan at oras.

 

[plhbg1]

Kung senate inquiry lang to bakit kung ayaw ng mga senator yung sagot mo e i cocontempt ka. Saka ung mga maliliit na issue kailangan pang isenate hearing katulad ng ung 4k issue, simple labor case nagsayang pa ng pera taong bayan at oras.

rekta láρág na lang sa document boss saying na meron nakulong para matingnan natin

 

[vvictorr]

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[plhbg1]

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you got it wrong, the case is already at court and the senate committee on dangerous drugs is conducting a separate investigation, they were cited for contempt dahil sa obstruction to investigation na ginagawa nila but wala naman verdict na ipakulong, if gusto nila ipakulong for contempt then ipa-file pa nila sa court ang case na iyan, it is just a citation (accusation), kaya nga sabi ni bato monitor the real case at court hayz

 

[vvictorr]

"A contempt of the Committee shall be deemed a contempt of the Senate. Such witness may be ordered by the Committee to be detained in such place as it may designate under the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms until he agrees to produce the required documents, or to be sworn or to testify, or otherwise purge himself on that contempt. (emphasis supplied)"

 

[plhbg1]

"A contempt of the Committee shall be deemed a contempt of the Senate. Such witness may be ordered by the Committee to be detained in such place as it may designate under the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms until he agrees to produce the required documents, or to be sworn or to testify, or otherwise purge himself on that contempt. (emphasis supplied)"

of course anyone can be detained but there is still a case to be filed at court or else the detained should be released, iba yung ipapakulong boss sa ipapa-detain lang hayz

 

[Daengsupog]

Kung baga sa sakit.cancer na yan dito sa Pinas.

 

[Jyushinshuu]

Pinakulong naman talaga nila sa senate pag ayaw nila ang sagot or feel nila nag sisinungaling. Dapat facts over feelings. Puro speculation lang naman sila, pag ayaw sagot, Boom! Kulong ka via contempt. Kahit gaano mo pa e sugarcoat yung, kulong pa rin sila without due process.

Section 17. No person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself.

Bakit nagagalit mga senador pag nag invoke right against self-incrimination?

Nasa constitution naman yan. Art. III, Sec. 17 of the 1987 Philippine Constitution which states that “No person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself”.

 

[plhbg1]

Pinakulong naman talaga nila sa senate pag ayaw nila ang sagot or feel nila nag sisinungaling. Dapat facts over feelings. Puro speculation lang naman sila, pag ayaw sagot, Boom! Kulong ka via contempt. Kahit gaano mo pa e sugarcoat yung, kulong pa rin sila without due process.

Section 17. No person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself.

Bakit nagagalit mga senador pag nag invoke right against self-incrimination?

Nasa constitution naman yan. Art. III, Sec. 17 of the 1987 Philippine Constitution which states that “No person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself”.

mabuti pa yung isa nag láρág pa ng mga documents, ikaw puro salita lang yung pinakulong argument mo, improve yourself na lang, yung at least nakakapagbigay ng whatever is being asked

 

[Jyushinshuu]

Ang detained ba ay hindi mo na deprived ang liberty? Sagot?

Lantarang grave abuse of authority ginagawa nila para makapag grandstanding, para na magpasikat in preparation sa next election.

 

[plhbg1]

Ang detained ba ay hindi mo na deprived ang liberty? Sagot?

Lantarang grave abuse of authority ginagawa nila para makapag grandstanding, para na magpasikat in preparation sa next election.

of course hindi dahil mananagot yung nag detain if wala silang maipa-file sa case sa court

 

[Jyushinshuu]

What's ironic is that yung #1 na nanggigisang senador is a convicted criminal.

 

[plhbg1]

What's ironic is that yung #1 na nanggigisang senador is a convicted criminal.

and who told you na bawal maging #1 yung isang criminal? bible? religion?

 

[vvictorr]

Pinakulong naman talaga nila sa senate pag ayaw nila ang sagot or feel nila nag sisinungaling. Dapat facts over feelings. Puro speculation lang naman sila, pag ayaw sagot, Boom! Kulong ka via contempt. Kahit gaano mo pa e sugarcoat yung, kulong pa rin sila without due process.

Section 17. No person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself.

Bakit nagagalit mga senador pag nag invoke right against self-incrimination?

Nasa constitution naman yan. Art. III, Sec. 17 of the 1987 Philippine Constitution which states that “No person shall be compelled to be a witness against himself”.

Agree ako sau boss. Senate is for legislation lang sana pero bat parang may power na silang magkulong? ano un naging judiciary narin ung senate? Palagi na nilang panakot ung contempt na yan kapag ayaw nila ung sagot ng resource person nila(espcially kapag nag invoke right against self-incrimination ka). Ung ngaun batch ng senador lang ko palaging naririnig ung contempt na yan.

 

[8inchhotdog]

Haha asa ka pa. Nasa dugo na ng mga pinoy ang pangungurakot. Mula sa pamilya pa lang, mga anak kinukurakot magulang or asawa.

 

[plhbg1]

Senate is for legislation lang

yes of course, but some legislation includes conducting inquiries and investigation of current problems especially those in relation to public order and dangerous drugs, they need basis as to what law to legislate in order to solve the current issues

anyways, nasa constitution na yung powers na iyan so your views no longer matter unless of course papasukin mo yung senate and initiate your own campaign doon and hopefully be able to amend the constitution

 

[Jyushinshuu]

Ang dami na nilang inquiry in aid of legislation, pero meron bang nagawa na bagong batas?

 

[plhbg1]

Ang dami na nilang inquiry in aid of legislation, pero meron bang nagawa na bagong batas?

of course meron iyan, mga useless nga lang hehe