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PROFESSOR František Vyskočil of Charles University, Prague, is internationally known for his research in neurophysiology. Once an atheist, he now firmly believes in God. In an interview with Awake! Professor Vyskočil explains why he changed his viewpoint.


What was your view of religion before you started your career in science?


I was raised an atheist, and my father often made fun of the clergy. I graduated from college in 1963 with degrees in biology and chemistry. In my school years, I believed that the theory of evolution explained life’s diversity.


Tell us a little about your career in science.


In my postdoctoral work, I studied the chemical and electrical properties of nerve synapses. I also studied neurons, membrane pumps, transplantation, and drug desensitization. Many of the results have been published, and some articles have been selected as classical. In time, I became a member of the Learned Society of the Czech Republic, a community of scientists chosen by their peers. After the December 1989 “Velvet Revolution,” I became a professor at Charles University and was allowed to travel to the West to meet with colleagues, some of whom were Nobel laureates.


Did you ever think about God?


In a sense, yes. At times, I wondered why many highly educated people, including some of my professors, believed in God—albeit quietly because of the Communist regime. To me, however, God was a human invention. I had also been outraged by atrocities committed in the name of religion.


How did you come to change your view of evolution?


My doubts about evolution began when I was studying synapses. I was deeply impressed by the amazing complexity of these supposedly simple connections between nerve cells. ‘How,’ I wondered, ‘could synapses and the genetic programs underlying them be products of mere blind chance?’ It really made no sense.


Then, in the early 1970’s, I attended a lecture by a famous Russian scientist and professor. He stated that living organisms cannot be a result of random mutations and natural selection. Someone in the audience then asked where the answer lay. The professor took a small Russian Bible from his jacket, held it up, and said, “Read the Bible—the creation story in Genesis in particular.”


Later, in the lobby, I asked the professor if he was serious about the Bible. In essence, he replied: “Simple bacteria can divide about every 20 minutes and have many hundreds of different proteins, each containing 20 types of amino acids arranged in chains that might be several hundred long. For bacteria to evolve by beneficial mutations one at a time would take much, much longer than three or four billion years, the time that many scientists believe life has existed on earth.” The Bible book of Genesis, he felt, made much more sense.


How did the professor’s comments affect you?


His observations, along with my own nagging doubts, moved me to discuss the subject with several religious colleagues and friends, but I found their views unconvincing. Then I spoke to a pharmacologist who was one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. For three years he explained the Bible to me and my wife, Ema. Two things amazed us. First, traditional “Christianity” actually has little in common with the Bible. Second, the Bible, though not a science book, actually harmonizes with true science.


Has your change of view hindered your scientific research?


Not at all. Every good scientist, regardless of his beliefs, must be as objective as possible. But my faith has changed me. For one thing, instead of being overly self-confident, highly competitive, and unduly proud of my scientific skills, I am now grateful to God for any abilities I may have. Also, instead of unfairly attributing the amazing designs manifest in creation to blind chance, I and not a few other scientists ask ourselves, ‘How did God design this?’
 
Another appeal to emotion and personal incredulity fallacy.

Your lack of understanding about evolution doesn't disprove evolution. It only prove your lack of understanding.
Tanong ko sayo, ikaw ba mismo pinag-aralan mo na yung evolution? Or any INTENSIVE studies gaya ng ginagawa ng ibang scientists or ibang specialist sa field nila gaya ni Professor František Vyskočil na isang neuroscientist? No worries, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Bilang isang neuroscientist, nahiya naman siya sayo no? Palagay mo, siya na lumaking atheist, na pinaniwalaan buong buhay niya yung pagiging atheist and evolutions, kinulang pa sa understanding sa teaching niyo na yon??? Hahahaha. NO. Mas pinili lang niya, kasama yung ibang mga totoong nag-iisip na scientist matapos pag-aralan ng INTENSIVE yung field nila, na maniwala sa isang Diyos dahil mas may sense yun according sa pag-aaral nila sa field nila.

Yung linya mo na "Your lack of understanding about evolution doesn't disprove evolution" ay pasok din sayo, dahil kulang ka rin sa unawa sa bible. Pero kumpara sayo at kay Prof Vyskočil na isang neuroscientist at kilala sa field niya na yan, mas maniniwala ako sa kaniya, hindi dahil yun ang paniniwala iya, kung hindi dahil MAS MAY SENSE maniwala sa everything came from someone (or something para sa inyo), THAN to everything came from NOTHING. Lol 🤦‍♂️😂
 
Do i need to explain what appeal to emotion and personal incredulity is?

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To bad that "scientist/neuroscientist" doesn't know evolution or scared to acknowledge scientific facts because it affect his specific belief/religion.

And too bad for you i know what evolution is. That's why i'm confident to talk about it.
 
I thought creatio ex nihilo came from theist? Too bad we atheist believe in creatio ex materia.

Universe came from pre-existing material (that's what atheist believe, creatio ex materia)

Universe created by God without pre-existing material
(What theist believe, creatio ex nihilo or creation out of nothing or without pre-existing material)
 
[XX='ChristianNaitsirhc, c: 202145, m: 1677118'][/XX]Luh, afraid of scientific facts daw because it affects his specific beliefs/religion? Haha. Binasa mo ba yung post? Atheist po siya dati at yun ang paniniwala niya. Hihihihi. Nakakatawa lang na sa isip mo eh yung professor na yan hindi nag iisip about evolution? Nahiya siya talaga sayo no naturingan pa man din siyang professor no at kilala sa field niya? Hahaha 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Too bad for me you know evolution? Daming theories sa evolution tas ikaw alam mo na? Haha

Sige po okay na. Everything came from nothing na po :)
 
Btw evolution does not corrolate to abiogenesis. Evolution us the study of evou
Tanong ko sayo, ikaw ba mismo pinag-aralan mo na yung evolution? Or any INTENSIVE studies gaya ng ginagawa ng ibang scientists or ibang specialist sa field nila gaya ni Professor František Vyskočil na isang neuroscientist? No worries, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Bilang isang neuroscientist, nahiya naman siya sayo no? Palagay mo, siya na lumaking atheist, na pinaniwalaan buong buhay niya yung pagiging atheist and evolutions, kinulang pa sa understanding sa teaching niyo na yon??? Hahahaha. NO. Mas pinili lang niya, kasama yung ibang mga totoong nag-iisip na scientist matapos pag-aralan ng INTENSIVE yung field nila, na maniwala sa isang Diyos dahil mas may sense yun according sa pag-aaral nila sa field nila.

Perfect example of APPEAL TO EMOTION
 
Btw evolution does not corrolate to abiogenesis. Evolution us the study of evou


Perfect example of APPEAL TO EMOTION
Ay nako haha. Nakakatawa lang na yung ganyang argument, ang banat niyo ay appeal to emotion. Common sense lang and comparison ang tinutukoy ko. Nahiya siya talaga sayo na isang kilala sa field ng neuroscientist at kinalakihan niya yung atheism at evolution e sasabihan na hindi alam ang evolution. Hihihi

Pero di naman ako umasa. Sige okay na. Everything came from nothing na. Kaw na po matalino :)
 
[XX='ChristianNaitsirhc, c: 202225, m: 1677118'][/XX] Ahhh late na pala ko, bagong theories na pala ng evolution ang meron hihi. Or, san kaya galing yung PRE-EXISTING material na yun? Then all of a sudden, BOOOM, the big bang. Like, what? 🤷‍♂️😅
 
This is kinda boring. my opponents doesn't even know what evolution is but still trying to disprove it using the magic of logical fallacy (appeal to emotion)

Let's make his logic short:
This specific scientist is an atheist and read the bible become theist and reject the scientific facts because it's against his belief

Conclusion: evolution is false because this specific scientist or neurologist and also ex-atheist (who doesn't really study biology) believe in God and reject evolution
 
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Let's make his logic short:
This specific scientist is an atheist and read the bible become theist and reject the scientific facts because it's against his belief

Conclusion: evolution is false because this specific scientist or neurologist (who doesn't study biology) believe in God and reject evolution
Parang hindi ganyan yung nangyari? Kulang ka ng steps. A professor, who is Internationally known for his research in neurophysiology, many of his research have been published, with intensive studies sa field niya, he studied about the synapses and was amazed of the COMPLEXITY of these supposedly simple connections between nerve cells. More research, then he asked another known scientist, then he STUDIED the bible saka lang niya na realized na MAS MAY SENSE ang maniwala sa isang creator.

Wag mo i shortcut kasi. Ginagawa mong hindi marunong yung professor e para lang ipakita na mas marunong ka pa sa kaniya sa beliefs ng evolution ;)
 
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Then i'm right

He's an atheist and think that complexity isn't created by chance and also read the bible then after that become theist

Conclusion: therefore it was created by God and complexity can only created by God not by random chance

And complexity requires a designer are flawed. We can also debate this topic
 
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[XX='ChristianNaitsirhc, c: 202253, m: 1677118'][/XX] Ahhh, onga naman. Pero yung COMPLEXITY ng field ng neuology no e wala lang? Para lang ma discredit talaga e hehe. By the way, yung DNA ang galing no? Meron kasi sa lahat yan ng living organisms kahit halaman. Sobrang complex din niyan daw sabi. Sobrang complex na kapag ni stretch yung dna mo aabot ng 61x balikan from Earth to Sun, pero nasa katawan mo lang yan at naglalaman ng millions of data (kung hindi man billion). I wonder kung pinag aaralan din kaya sa biology na yang sobrang complex na yan ay result ng CHANCE? Hihi 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
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