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President Rodrigo Duterte and his alter egos doubt their own countrymen whose boat was sunk by a Chinese ship in the West Philippine Sea on June 9, 2019

After 22 Filipino fishermen aboard fishing boat Gem-Ver You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. by a Chinese vessel in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), they face another collision at home: with their own government.
While the fishermen insisted that they were rammed by a Chinese vessel, President Rodrigo Duterte on June 17 You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. as a "maritime incident."
At the same time, Duterte's men either refused to adopt the fishermen's statements or contradicted them outright.
The President himself echoed China's foreign ministry, which said on June 13 that the sinking of Gem-Ver You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. He refused to condemn China – You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. against the United States, the European Union, Canada, and Kuwait over perceived affronts to Filipinos.
Duterte also You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of a joint Manila-Beijing investigation into the issue – which, according to critics, places the Philippines and China in one team against the fishermen.
"Hindi namin alam kung kinakampihan pa kami (We don't know if they're still siding with us)," You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., one of the owners of Gem-Ver, on June 18.

Senator Panfilo Lacson said Duterte's spokesman, Salvador Panelo, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.
"He is acting like the defense ministry of China, or is lawyering for the Chinese crew, because he is finding loopholes in our fishermen's words," said Lacson in a mix of English and Filipino. "His mindset is like a defense counsel entering his appearance for China, as if he was in a courtroom."

Is the Philippine government indeed lawyering for China?


The incident is only part of the stream of a grander issue: the Philippines' rights over Recto Bank.
Duterte himself downplays the Philippines' exclusive rights to fish in the area.

This is despite a 2016 international ruling that recognizes Recto Bank as part of the Philippines' exclusive economic zone, a 200-nautical mile area where the Philippines has the exclusive rights to fish and enjoy other resources, such as oil and natural gas.

Simply put: The waters where the Philippine boat was sunk by a Chinese ship belong to the Philippines alone.
Duterte on June 21 said the Recto Bank incident was not an attack on Philippine sovereignty, but You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. over the area.

On June 24, Duterte stressed that Recto Bank "has two conflicting claims of ownership," even if a Hague tribunal already ruled, once and for all, that the West Philippine Sea belongs to the Philippines.
In effect, Duterte, like China, was not recognizing the Hague ruling of 2016.


In the same June 24 interview, a journalist asked the President: "Will you prevent China from fishing within our EEZ? Iyong pwede po bang… kasi 'yun 'yung request ng mga fishermen?"
Duterte answered: "I don't think that China would do that. Why? Because we're friends. And they are of the same view that that should not result in any bloody confrontation."

Panelo, interpreting Duterte, said the Philippines "will allow" China to fish in the West Philippine Sea "kasi we're friends naman, 'di magbigayan muna tayo



Experts say the Recto Bank incident could only be a test of the Duterte government's reaction to China’s similar moves in the future. If the government reacts lightly, this could further embolden China to ram more Filipino boats to drive them away from the West Philippine Sea.


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he is not my idol..i just like him for being who he is and for being unorthodox..he is by far better than the previous presidents well if madam mirriam did won she will be better..i really dont think that he is selling the Philippines..he is doing whats best for the country by his answers lately..some maybe harsh but its for his critics showing no matter what they say..u cannot move me and turn me into your puppet..thats how strong his will shows..thats what i like about him
being unorthodox? why? because he curses at everyone who displeases him?
he is a trapo like all the others, worst than the others... he is a populist who fooled 16 million people! and even does not respect his electorate...

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being unorthodox? why? because he curses at everyone who displeases him?
he is a trapo like all the others, worst than the others... he is a populist who fooled 16 million people! and even does not respect his electorate...

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atleast he is true to himself..when he is angry he curse no matter who you are..lol..if you are looking for trapo..look at mar roxas and other liberal..thats the best example of trapo..16 million strong is what i will describe it..those who wanted change of all the previous trapo
 
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FLORIN HILBAY IS AN IDIOT AND A LIAR

The idiot is misinterpreting the text of RA 8550 by saying that "RA 8550 specifically defines "Philippine Waters" as "all bodies of water within the Philippine territory... and all other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction including the 200-nautical miles EEZ" in order to imply that the Philippines "HAS SOVEREIGNTY" over the EEZ, which is clearly not true.

He has clearly misinterpreted it!

This is what the text of RA 8550 says:

"Section 3. Application of its Provisions. - The provisions of this Code shall be enforced in:

(a) all Philippine waters including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction, and the country's 200-nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf;"

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People who have English as THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE (sorry, I'm in that group: My dad is Cebuano, my mom is Tagalog, so English was the neutral language they spoke to each other and to us kids at home, so English comes naturally to us) can clearly see that the text DOES NOT DEFINE THE EEZ AS BEING PART OF PHILIPPINE WATERS over which we have sovereignty and jurisdiction.

It merely states that the provisions of the Code are to be enforced in "all Philippine waters including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction" AND THEN ADDS "and the country's 200-nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf."

The original text actually treats the EEZ and continental shelf as being SEPARATE ENTITIES which are distinct from "All Philippine Waters including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction" which is why it was separated with the conjunction "AND" instead of saying "WHICH INCLUDES."

The text did NOT say "including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction WHICH INCLUDES the country's 200-nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf." There was no point at which the EEZ and continental shelf were being included under "other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction" because we simply do not have sovereignty over the EEZ. Our Sovereignty is only until the end of the Territorial Sea boundary which is 12 nautical miles from the territorial baseline.

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It is also very clear that HILBAY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT AN EEZ IS.

Whereas the Philippines has full jurisdiction and FULL SOVEREIGNTY over our Territory and Territorial Waters, we do not have sovereignty over our EEZ.

In fact, when it is said that we have Sovereign Rights within our EEZ, it does not mean that we have Sovereign Rights over the surface waters of the EEZ itself, because our Sovereign Rights are to the RESOURCES, especially those found within and under the Seabed.

We certainly do not have sovereign rights over the Surface Waters of the EEZ because the Surface Waters of the EEZ are actually INTERNATIONAL WATERS, as per UNCLOS!

How did such an idiotic fool with lousy English-language comprehension skills like FLORIN HILBAY become a Bar "topnotcher?"

Hilbay is destroying the reputation of the Legal Profession in the Philippines because he is forcing a subjective interpretation based on his own caprices, partisan preferences, and biased opinion, instead of understanding the objective facts based on what UNCLOS has defined!

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It's ironic that HILBAY is using RA 8550 to state his case when within the text of RA 8550, there is also Section 4, item 18 which states:

"18. Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ. - an area beyond and adjacent to the territorial sea which shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines as defined under existing laws."

In other words, the EEZ is correctly being identified as being BEYOND and ADJACENT to the territorial sea. "Beyond," meaning OUTSIDE the territorial sea, and therefore outside our territory.

Are his English language abilities really that substandard? I don't mean to be elitist in terms of my having grown up with English as the language I feel most comfortable in, but Hilbay simply cannot function properly as a Filipino lawyer if he lacks facility in English because that is the language in which the vast majority of our laws and legal decisions are written in!


PAKKII BASA NALANG TS BAKA MAY MATUTUNAN KA PA....
 
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Yesterday at 00:29
FLORIN HILBAY IS AN IDIOT AND A LIAR

The idiot is misinterpreting the text of RA 8550 by saying that "RA 8550 specifically defines "Philippine Waters" as "all bodies of water within the Philippine territory... and all other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction including the 200-nautical miles EEZ" in order to imply that the Philippines "HAS SOVEREIGNTY" over the EEZ, which is clearly not true.

He has clearly misinterpreted it!

This is what the text of RA 8550 says:

"Section 3. Application of its Provisions. - The provisions of this Code shall be enforced in:

(a) all Philippine waters including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction, and the country's 200-nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf;"

***

People who have English as THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE (sorry, I'm in that group: My dad is Cebuano, my mom is Tagalog, so English was the neutral language they spoke to each other and to us kids at home, so English comes naturally to us) can clearly see that the text DOES NOT DEFINE THE EEZ AS BEING PART OF PHILIPPINE WATERS over which we have sovereignty and jurisdiction.

It merely states that the provisions of the Code are to be enforced in "all Philippine waters including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction" AND THEN ADDS "and the country's 200-nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf."

The original text actually treats the EEZ and continental shelf as being SEPARATE ENTITIES which are distinct from "All Philippine Waters including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction" which is why it was separated with the conjunction "AND" instead of saying "WHICH INCLUDES."

The text did NOT say "including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction WHICH INCLUDES the country's 200-nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf." There was no point at which the EEZ and continental shelf were being included under "other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction" because we simply do not have sovereignty over the EEZ. Our Sovereignty is only until the end of the Territorial Sea boundary which is 12 nautical miles from the territorial baseline.

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It is also very clear that HILBAY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT AN EEZ IS.

Whereas the Philippines has full jurisdiction and FULL SOVEREIGNTY over our Territory and Territorial Waters, we do not have sovereignty over our EEZ.

In fact, when it is said that we have Sovereign Rights within our EEZ, it does not mean that we have Sovereign Rights over the surface waters of the EEZ itself, because our Sovereign Rights are to the RESOURCES, especially those found within and under the Seabed.

We certainly do not have sovereign rights over the Surface Waters of the EEZ because the Surface Waters of the EEZ are actually INTERNATIONAL WATERS, as per UNCLOS!

How did such an idiotic fool with lousy English-language comprehension skills like FLORIN HILBAY become a Bar "topnotcher?"

Hilbay is destroying the reputation of the Legal Profession in the Philippines because he is forcing a subjective interpretation based on his own caprices, partisan preferences, and biased opinion, instead of understanding the objective facts based on what UNCLOS has defined!

***

It's ironic that HILBAY is using RA 8550 to state his case when within the text of RA 8550, there is also Section 4, item 18 which states:

"18. Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ. - an area beyond and adjacent to the territorial sea which shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines as defined under existing laws."

In other words, the EEZ is correctly being identified as being BEYOND and ADJACENT to the territorial sea. "Beyond," meaning OUTSIDE the territorial sea, and therefore outside our territory.

Are his English language abilities really that substandard? I don't mean to be elitist in terms of my having grown up with English as the language I feel most comfortable in, but Hilbay simply cannot function properly as a Filipino lawyer if he lacks facility in English because that is the language in which the vast majority of our laws and legal decisions are written in!


PAKKII BASA NALANG TS BAKA MAY MATUTUNAN KA PA....
I don't know who wrote this piece of sh... because, as usual, you don't give your "source"!

For your information, the "idiot" Florin Hilbay served as the Solicitor General of the Philippines from 2014 to 2016, serving the Philippine agent in the international case, the Philippines v. China, which nullified all historical claims of China in the West Philippine Sea. He ranked first place in the 1999 Philippine Bar Examination.

He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics from the University of Santo Tomas in 1995. He earned his law degree from the University of the Philippines College of Law at UP Diliman and was admitted to the bar in 1999, placing first in the bar examinations. In 2005, Hilbay obtained his Masters of Law degree from Yale Law School.

He was a Fulbright Visiting Scholar at Boston College in 2001. He has also held fellowships at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Lawin Heidelberg, Germany, and at the Asian Law Institute for Comparative Public Law in the National University of Singapore, and in Silliman University.


He is a member of the faculty of the University of the Philippines College of Law since 2000, where he teaches Advanced Constitutional Litigation, Constitutional Law, and Philosophy of Law, with emphasis on issues relating to Church and State, post-colonial constitutionalism, and the relationship between the information environment and legal consciousness. He also taught Obligations & Contracts and Public Officers & Election Law.

If more "idiots" like him were in the government we will not be in this calamitous state today!
 
I don't know who wrote this piece of sh... because, as usual, you don't give your "source"!

For your information, the "idiot" Florin Hilbay served as the Solicitor General of the Philippines from 2014 to 2016, serving the Philippine agent in the international case, the Philippines v. China, which nullified all historical claims of China in the West Philippine Sea. He ranked first place in the 1999 Philippine Bar Examination.

He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics from the University of Santo Tomas in 1995. He earned his law degree from the University of the Philippines College of Law at UP Diliman and was admitted to the bar in 1999, placing first in the bar examinations. In 2005, Hilbay obtained his Masters of Law degree from Yale Law School.

He was a Fulbright Visiting Scholar at Boston College in 2001. He has also held fellowships at the Max Planck Institute for Comparative Public Law and International Lawin Heidelberg, Germany, and at the Asian Law Institute for Comparative Public Law in the National University of Singapore, and in Silliman University.


He is a member of the faculty of the University of the Philippines College of Law since 2000, where he teaches Advanced Constitutional Litigation, Constitutional Law, and Philosophy of Law, with emphasis on issues relating to Church and State, post-colonial constitutionalism, and the relationship between the information environment and legal consciousness. He also taught Obligations & Contracts and Public Officers & Election Law.

If more "idiots" like him were in the government we will not be in this calamitous state today!
pascensya na ts hindi ako nasisilaw sa mga ganon awards o ano ba tawag nyo dyaan kxi lahat yan theory lang ang importante yung gawa...gawa...gawa...

lahat yan sa panahon nang mga yellow makukuha lang yan sa pera pera at padrino system e....

sa lahat nang galing nya yan kung tutoo bat nagpatuta lang sya sa mga dilawan dahil lang ba sa pera....

sayang kung tutoo talaga sana yang galing nya tapos ginamit nya sa bansa natin nuon pa sana we haved a brighter country than china...e asan na yun mga ganon galing..nabulag ata sa pera..



Back to topic ts hindi naman si Hilbay ang punto natin di ba bakit pumunta ka kay Hilabay chismosa ka nuh
Ang punto dyaan yun tungkol sa thread mo'''....

He ang You has clearly misinterpreted it!
This is what the text of RA 8550 says:

"Section 3. Application of its Provisions. - The provisions of this Code shall be enforced in:

(a) all Philippine waters including other waters over which the Philippines has sovereignty and jurisdiction, and the country's 200-nautical mile Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf;"

It's ironic that HILBAY and YOU is using RA 8550 to state his case when within the text of RA 8550, there is also Section 4, item 18 which states:
"18. Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ. - an area beyond and adjacent to the territorial sea which shall not extend beyond 200 nautical miles from the baselines as defined under existing laws."

In other words, the EEZ is correctly being identified as being BEYOND and ADJACENT to the territorial sea. "Beyond," meaning OUTSIDE the territorial sea, and therefore outside our territory.

i thank you...
 
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President Rodrigo Duterte and his alter egos doubt their own countrymen whose boat was sunk by a Chinese ship in the West Philippine Sea on June 9, 2019

After 22 Filipino fishermen aboard fishing boat Gem-Ver You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. by a Chinese vessel in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), they face another collision at home: with their own government.
While the fishermen insisted that they were rammed by a Chinese vessel, President Rodrigo Duterte on June 17 You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. as a "maritime incident."
At the same time, Duterte's men either refused to adopt the fishermen's statements or contradicted them outright.
The President himself echoed China's foreign ministry, which said on June 13 that the sinking of Gem-Ver You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. He refused to condemn China – You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. against the United States, the European Union, Canada, and Kuwait over perceived affronts to Filipinos.
Duterte also You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of a joint Manila-Beijing investigation into the issue – which, according to critics, places the Philippines and China in one team against the fishermen.
"Hindi namin alam kung kinakampihan pa kami (We don't know if they're still siding with us)," You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., one of the owners of Gem-Ver, on June 18.

Senator Panfilo Lacson said Duterte's spokesman, Salvador Panelo, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.
"He is acting like the defense ministry of China, or is lawyering for the Chinese crew, because he is finding loopholes in our fishermen's words," said Lacson in a mix of English and Filipino. "His mindset is like a defense counsel entering his appearance for China, as if he was in a courtroom."

Is the Philippine government indeed lawyering for China?


The incident is only part of the stream of a grander issue: the Philippines' rights over Recto Bank.
Duterte himself downplays the Philippines' exclusive rights to fish in the area.

This is despite a 2016 international ruling that recognizes Recto Bank as part of the Philippines' exclusive economic zone, a 200-nautical mile area where the Philippines has the exclusive rights to fish and enjoy other resources, such as oil and natural gas.

Simply put: The waters where the Philippine boat was sunk by a Chinese ship belong to the Philippines alone.
Duterte on June 21 said the Recto Bank incident was not an attack on Philippine sovereignty, but You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. over the area.

On June 24, Duterte stressed that Recto Bank "has two conflicting claims of ownership," even if a Hague tribunal already ruled, once and for all, that the West Philippine Sea belongs to the Philippines.
In effect, Duterte, like China, was not recognizing the Hague ruling of 2016.


In the same June 24 interview, a journalist asked the President: "Will you prevent China from fishing within our EEZ? Iyong pwede po bang… kasi 'yun 'yung request ng mga fishermen?"
Duterte answered: "I don't think that China would do that. Why? Because we're friends. And they are of the same view that that should not result in any bloody confrontation."

Panelo, interpreting Duterte, said the Philippines "will allow" China to fish in the West Philippine Sea "kasi we're friends naman, 'di magbigayan muna tayo



Experts say the Recto Bank incident could only be a test of the Duterte government's reaction to China’s similar moves in the future. If the government reacts lightly, this could further embolden China to ram more Filipino boats to drive them away from the West Philippine Sea.


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Really true TS 😔 but sad to say maraming supporters yang digong nayan..
 
No way miriam can be better than PRRD. Miriam would not last a year from being impeached because of this thirsty oligarch and their instrument liberal party, main stream media, etc. Now we get to the topic regarding sa ramming insident nag conduct na ng investigation ang both countries napaka simple lang na issue yan it's just a two fisherman boat na nag collide kaya sinabi ni digong na ordinary maritime dispute yan it's a simple maritime case hindi naman navy ang nag banggaan, may nagyayari talaga sa dagat na ganyang insidente. at syempre may mananagot dyan chinese government na mismo nagsabi na paparusahan nila kung barko talaga ng china ang naka bangga at dahil chinese na naman kaya pinapalaki. Hays di niyo pa ba napapansin? Yan ang purpose ng dilawan para mag mukhang lawyer ng china ang pangulo.
 
Yung mga nag iinarte dyan,

Bakit di nyo habulin kung kailan at kaninong administrasyon sinimulan yang pag gawa ng isla dyan sa scaborough na yan? Bakit nung mga panahon na sinasakop yan at sinisimulang tambakan ng mga lupa para gawin isla eh hindi lumabas yang pagiging patriotism nyo kuno. Bakit hindi nyo simulang mag welga sa kalsada at panagutin ang mga totoong may sala dyan kung bakit naukupa ng china yang scaborouh na yan. Umupo si duterte tapos na yang isla sa scaborough at nakalagay na lahat ng defense system ng china.



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Kung sinasabi nyong gusto nyong bawiin yang west sea na yan, Sa tingin nyo ba kahit sinong bansa eh hindi aalma at papalag pag pinewersa nyong bawiin yan ngayon nakatayo na lahat ng defense system nila at para bang ibibigay na lang nila lahat ng pinundar nila doon. Hindi ba mag reresulta yun nang gulo?!
 
Hahahahaha
Pilit pinalaki Kahit accident lang yun.. .
Yun si batong bocol... Nagmamagaling.. Bogok naman.
Hoy bugok na itlog, muntik na ikamatay ng kapwa mo pilipino tas tinakbuhan pa ng mga chingchong tas sasabihin mo accident LANG??? nyahahahahaha asan ang hustisya? Bigay mo hustisya sa mga mangingisda happy ang lahat. Mag all hail rodrigo pa ako. Ay.. Alagang aso pala siya ni Xi Jinping nyahahahaha
 
Yung mga nag iinarte dyan,

Bakit di nyo habulin kung kailan at kaninong administrasyon sinimulan yang pag gawa ng isla dyan sa scaborough na yan? Bakit nung mga panahon na sinasakop yan at sinisimulang tambakan ng mga lupa para gawin isla eh hindi lumabas yang pagiging patriotism nyo kuno. Bakit hindi nyo simulang mag welga sa kalsada at panagutin ang mga totoong may sala dyan kung bakit naukupa ng china yang scaborouh na yan. Umupo si duterte tapos na yang isla sa scaborough at nakalagay na lahat ng defense system ng china.



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Kung sinasabi nyong gusto nyong bawiin yang west sea na yan, Sa tingin nyo ba kahit sinong bansa eh hindi aalma at papalag pag pinewersa nyong bawiin yan ngayon nakatayo na lahat ng defense system nila at para bang ibibigay na lang nila lahat ng pinundar nila doon. Hindi ba mag reresulta yun nang gulo?!
bugok, eh bakit gusto makipag gyera sa Canada pero sa china tiklop? Nyahahahahahahaha not necessarily mag mayabang ng gyera pero walang ginagawa eh nyahahahahaha sa basura ng Canada galit na galit pero pag isla mo tinatayuan ng kung ano ano tiklop? Nyahahahahaha

Sit Rodrigo.. Sit.
-Xi Jinping 2019
 
Even if we accept the theory that it was an accident, for you all who are like duterte, kissing the chinese a$$, it's normal to leave to die 22 people, not trying to rescue them? Hit and run... ok lang? There are international laws also about rescuing people at sea... but hey, the chinese and duterte administration don't care about international laws diba?
 
bugok, eh bakit gusto makipag gyera sa Canada pero sa china tiklop? Nyahahahahahahaha not necessarily mag mayabang ng gyera pero walang ginagawa eh nyahahahahaha sa basura ng Canada galit na galit pero pag isla mo tinatayuan ng kung ano ano tiklop? Nyahahahahaha

Sit Rodrigo.. Sit.
-Xi Jinping 2019


bugok, Ang Canada ba ay may hawak na pinag aagawang teritoryo kagaya ng sa China?

Si duterte ay mahilig mag salita ng mga metaphore. Yun ang paliwanag sa tungkol sa sinabi nya sa canada.
 
bugok, eh bakit gusto makipag gyera sa Canada pero sa china tiklop? Nyahahahahahahaha not necessarily mag mayabang ng gyera pero walang ginagawa eh nyahahahahaha sa basura ng Canada galit na galit pero pag isla mo tinatayuan ng kung ano ano tiklop? Nyahahahahaha

Sit Rodrigo.. Sit.
-Xi Jinping 2019

Di mo sinagot yung tanong zaii, puro ka tawa iniiba mo yung topic ginawa mong basura. Haha. Sagutin mo yung tanong ni zaii.

Bakit di nyo habulin kung kailan at kaninong administrasyon sinimulan yang pag gawa ng isla dyan sa scaborough na yan? Bakit nung mga panahon na sinasakop yan at sinisimulang tambakan ng mga lupa para gawin isla eh hindi lumabas yang pagiging patriotism nyo kuno. Bakit hindi nyo simulang mag welga sa kalsada at panagutin ang mga totoong may sala dyan kung bakit naukupa ng china yang scaborouh na yan. Umupo si duterte tapos na yang isla sa scaborough at nakalagay na lahat ng defense system ng china.

Remember, nagpunta si trililing sa China ng 15 or 16 times ata, tapos non nagtayo na ng base yung China sa WPS. Haist ;)

Magkano ba bayad sa inyo? :p

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Sabi nga ni DUTERTE sa interview sakanaya Di sya takot makipag GERA sa china ang kinakatakot nya ay yung matalo tayo sa CHINA respect nalang natin yung ginagawa nya hindi yung puro tayo dada imbis na tulungan natin sya tayo pa mismo kumokontra para sakanya..
Sabi nga ni Gen.Luna pilipino ang syang pumapatay sa kapwa pilipino..
 
Di mo sinagot yung tanong zaii, puro ka tawa iniiba mo yung topic ginawa mong basura. Haha. Sagutin mo yung tanong ni zaii.



Remember, nagpunta si trililing sa China ng 15 or 16 times ata, tapos non nagtayo na ng base yung China sa WPS. Haist ;)

Magkano ba bayad sa inyo? :p

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Ang hirap kasi makipag talo, Meron kasi tayong kanya kanyang pinaniniwalaan kaya kahit friendly debate hindi maiwasan magkatrashtalkan.
 

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