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MANILA, Philippines — President Rodrigo Duterte on Saturday night threatened to go through with ending the Visiting Forces Agreement with the United States if it fails to deliver millions of doses of US-made COVID-19 vaccine.
The president's latest pronouncement follows the supposed botched negotiations with the US drugmaker Pfizer for 10 million doses and as his administration faces criticism of lagging behind in the global race to secure doses

US firms Moderna Therapeutics and Arcturus Therapeutics are ready to supply four to 25 million doses of their vaccines beginning the third quarter of next year should the government find their proposals acceptable, Philippine Ambassador to the US Jose Manuel Romualdez said in a statement earlier this month.

"If they can't deliver at least 20 million doses at a minimum, they better get out," Duterte said in English during his televised meeting with the coronavirus task force. "No vaccine, no stay here.

Duterte, who has not had a warm relations with Washington largely due to his drug war, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.the decades-old VFA in early February after the US reportedly cancelled the visa of Sen. Bato dela Rosa over his role in the government's "war on drugs".

The VFA, which governs the status and treatment of US soldiers in the Philippines and allows them to hold military exercises and provide technical assistance to security personnel, has been criticized in the past for allowing foreign troops in the country and for keeping the Philippines dependent on the US.

Duterte suspended the termination of the VFA in June "in light of political and other developments in the region" and, in November, extended the suspension for another six months.

The Philippines has so far secured only 2.6 million doses from AstraZeneca as a donation from the private sector, and the administration has yet to sign deals with drugmakers with only a few days before the year ends.

Officials have since denied that the country was late into talks for securing doses, even with Duterte only approving advanced payments in November after shunning the move which he said was the West making profit for the vaccines.

Its move to procure 25 million doses of China's Sinovac has also been widely criticized because the vaccine is more expensive and has a lower efficacy rate of 50%.

"Do not believe s*** about America delivering immediately," Duterte said. "If America wants to help, you deliver. Stop talking, what we need is the vaccine. Not your verbose speeches."

The administration is looking to inoculate 24.7 million Filipinos in 2021, with Sinovac seen to arrive the earliest by March, and AstraZeneca by the second quarter.

Over a million individuals in the US have already been inoculated after the Food and Drug Administration there issued emergency use approvals to Pfizer and Moderna. By mid-December, aYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. also reported that there are now 11.6 billion doses reserved even before a vaccine is put out in the market.

Indonesia, which has the highest number of infections in Southeast Asia, has so far secured 335.5 million doses, according to the report.

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I assume, alam na ng lahat yung timeline/full details kung bakit na-delay tayo sa procurement ng Pfiser made vaccines which could possibly be coming this January 2021 had the agreement pushed through. Matagal na yang negotiation ng DOH sa Pfiser. Sa sobrang cautious ni Duque at team nya, at yung pagkakaiba ng kanilang pananaw kung sino ang dapat pumirma ng CDA on behalf of the government, ay nahantong sa ganitong sitwasyon. Pfiser wanted the Office of the President (OP) to sign the CDA. Why is it hard for DOH to do this? Other countries who deal with Pfiser had done this too (kaya sila nauna sa atin). It just means Duque and his team didn't know how to handle deals/situations involving "red tape" conditions - simple! You have to follow Pfiser's conditions too, or else, find a another source. Di lang naman sila ang producer ng vaccines kung tutuusin.
Ngayon, sa galit ni DU30, ginamit nya yung VFA for this failure? Anong kinalaman ng VFA sa Pfiser Covid-19 vaccine procurement. Kasunduan ng DOH/OP with Pfiser ang issue, hindi sa USA. Alam naman nya galing kay Teddy Boy Locsin na tinutulungan tayo ng US Secretary of State (Mike Pompeo) for this deal with Pfiser. Ang isa pa, marami pang ibang worthy vaccine na ka-level ang efficacy ng Pfizer-BioNTech (+90%), tulad ng Moderna, AstraZeneca AZD1222, Johnson&Johnson Janssen, Russia's Sputnik V. Even the less effective Sinovac is still important. We get whatever is available in numbers. What choice do we have?
Inappropriate and highly political yung statement ni DU30, and may have negative impact on other big countries allied to the US which are producing vaccines as well. Sino tayo para magdikta sa panahon na lahat ng mga bansa (maging tulad natin) ay nangangailangan ng karampatang bakuna? Diplomasya dapat ang ginawa nya, dahil tayo yung nangangailangan ng tulong and we don't want enemies at this crucial time.
I hope the US doesn't take this seriously.
 
lol...actually di naman yan ang point ko, my point is, what if, and I will stress it again, "WHAT IF" magbigay nga nag vaccines ang US in return for extended VFA, will you still blabber about the same complains? or you will just move on to the next issue that you can find and pretend as if these conversations never happened?
Ang issue kasi ang "what if" ay hindi sigurado, kaya kahit kelan hindi magiging sapat ang what if mo. Kung wala pala eh nganga tayong lahat? O kaya yung vaccine nalang sa china na mahal at mababa efficacy?
 
[XX='Francis56, c: 621262, m: 1774484'][/XX] pumalpak sila sa pfizer deal nila, kaya nagkakaganito. ginagawa lang yan ni duterte para di mapuna si duque.
kung di gagana yung threat na yan, nganga tayo, walang vaccine at walang vfa.
 
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Malamang ay pagbibigyan tayo ng US dahil importante tayo sa West Philippine Sea na problena rin nila with China - not because we need the vaccine! It may come at a price later on - politically. Walang presidenteng uminsulto sa US na...alam mo na - regime change! Sana naman ay di tayo sumunod sa Libya, Yemen at Venezuela - kung updated kayo sa balita.
 
You can't teach an old dog a new trick, meaning Duterte will always be "anti-US", forever socialist si Comrade Rodrigo and it's understandable. Yung mga mala fliptop na banat nya ay puro lang kwentong barbero, pero syempre yang mga banat nya ay yan yung nagpapa sweldo sa media.

Pero advise ko lang ke Comrade Rodrigo, kung gusto nya talaga tumulong, fire Dookie...

Yung nakikita ko dito is binibigyan nya nang absolute power at freedom si Dookie in which he may already know that Dookie is a crook. Dookie is a shame for DOH, Juan Flavier would slap his sissy face if Flavier is still alive.
 
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Sa tingin ko lang, mukhang uliani na si Comrade Rody nahihirapan nya sya mag digest nang mga information. Di ko sya kinukutya, pero yan talaga yung observation ko sa kanya.
 
[XX='Delta India Charlie Kilo, c: 621715, m: 262490'][/XX] daming factors diba, maganda record sa davao pero di magawa sa buong pilipinas. binoto mo dahil maganda yung campaign niya, pero ganito na yung nangyayari.
either ganyan siya, may hawak sila sa kanya o magkasabwat talaga sila at davao lang yung pake niya.
 
Madami, add mo yung factor na DOH secretary din sya noon ni Ate Glo add mo na si Ate Glo malakas kapit sa Congress.. This are all the master plan of Ate Glo, alam nya na noong pagkaupo palang ni PDUTS my chance na babalik sya sa power.
 
[XX='Delta India Charlie Kilo, c: 622331, m: 262490'][/XX] connected rin siya sa doh ******* ni gloria last time.
pag totoo na may hawak, magiging kasalanan rin ng mga dds na di mapa alis ni dutz yung mga kurap na yan, walang tigil na pag depensa rin sila(dds) sa mga to, habang si duts nagiging mouth piece na nila(gloria, duque).
 
Ang issue kasi ang "what if" ay hindi sigurado, kaya kahit kelan hindi magiging sapat ang what if mo. Kung wala pala eh nganga tayong lahat? O kaya yung vaccine nalang sa china na mahal at mababa efficacy?
I'm not trying to argue with you, I just want to sort out the real critic dun sa mga bandwagoners lang..I respect everyone's opinion, pero mahirap irespeto yung tipong sumasabay lang sa uso at kung ano lang ang sinasabi ng karamihan. Kaya ko tinatanong kong anong gagawin mo in case kumagat ang US sa so called bluff and actually delivers the vaccines, which do mo naman sinagot, ngayon medyo alam ko na kung alin ka sa dalawa. lol
 
gagawin ko siguro eto
congrats pero muntik mo nang isakripsyo yung vfa at ang vaccine sa pfizer.
kasalanan niya rin naman kung bakit extend ng extend tayo ng vfa. pang cover niya rin yung threat para sa kapalpakan ni duque.
pag di kumagat ang amerka sa threat na to, tahimik or justify pa rin yan ng mga dds.
 
di pa rin deserving of praise pag gumana yung threat niya.
bakit? una pa lang kasi, meron na talaga tayong parating na vaccine galing US, pero ang nangyari ay pumalpak sila sa pag process nito.
 
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