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kaya nabubully tong nga naniniwala sa diyos eh, pinipilit nilang ipush sa iba ung gusto nila. eh sa ayaw nga maniwala, kung totoo oh hindi, ano naman? magenjoy tayo sa buhay natin kesa paikutin natin sarili natin sa walang kabuluhan na bagay.
 
The all time best selling book "The Bible" sorry to say but kung ipaghahalintulad mo ang religion at kung ano ang totoo parang tubig at langis, putik bakit kaya madami ang uto2 sa mundo.

ginawa ang diyos na concepto para kontrolin ang mga tao. sa libro binabasi lahat ? parang sinasabi mo rin na wala talagang diyos, i felt the presence of God. Ha! ano daw hahahahah basahin mo ang bible tapos intindihin mo para malaman mo ang totoo na wala talang diyos.
 
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“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” -- someone (former something, something to make it credible, wink wink)

Kidding aside, the quote above is from Epicurus. That quote is worth thinking about which will make you question god's reality, nature and motive.
Another nonsense speculations.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
First of all, if God is willing to prevent evil but not able, then it would be true that he is not omnipotent. But this would mean that he is not the God of the Bible since the God of the Bible does whatever he desires to do (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).
Second, Epicurus offers no definition for evil. Therefore, how can his assertion be validated? It can't. How would someone, say an atheist, define evil and also justify the definition as being the right one? Is evil unnecessary suffering? Is it murder but not s†éáling a paperclip? Is it a famine, an earthquake, bad thoughts, and/or wrong motives? Again, without defining what evil is, the validity of the statements cannot be properly assessed.

Third, after a definition is offered, and hopefully justified, we can then ask to what degree ought God prevent evil? Should God prevent mass starvation, but not the theft of a paperclip? Who decides where the boundary is drawn? What about a person's evil thoughts and intentions? Should God prevent those from occurring as well and thus violate a person's free will? Is that okay? If so, why? If not, why not?

Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
This objection presupposes that if God can prevent evil, then he should. But why ought God stop evil (all evil?) from happening? Just saying so does not make it so. Furthermore, the second assertion presupposes a kind of moral absolute; namely, that evil ought to be prevented by anyone who is able to prevent it. We must ask, from where is such a universal moral absolute obtained? Is it made up by people? Is it voted on? Or is it just assumed, by faith, to be true? This is important because this second assertion presupposes a moral absolute. So how do we validate the moral assertion? Is it by intuition? If so, how do we know the intuition is right? Is it by logic? Then what logical syllogism or deduction is used that necessitates such moral obligation?

In addition, there are questions we would have to ask that are related to this second assertion. Could it be that God can use evil for a greater good, as would be exemplified in the evil of the crucifixion by which people are redeemed? Could it be that the freedom God allows people to have also means that they must have the freedom to choose to do what is bad? This would mean that he desires people not to do evil, but that he also desires that they be free to do that which is contrary to God; namely, evil.

Also, could it be that God would have reasons to allow evil that we do not understand? After all, he's greater than us and he understands things in a way that we do not, and we are not privy to his scope of knowledge. Therefore, it is possible that he could have reasons to allow evil that we cannot understand.

Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
If God is both able and willing to stop evil, but chooses not to stop all evil, that means God has allowed evil to exist. As is stated above, there are many aspects to this issue of allowing evil, including free will, the degree of evil, the definition of evil, how much evil ought God stop, etc.

Biblically speaking, evil originated in the heart and mind of Lucifer who decided to rebel against God. It was he who acted as though he "lacked belief in God," when he did not trust in God's wisdom and declarations but instead behaved in a manner that is consistent with independence from God.

Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
We should call him God because he is God. Also, as is stated in the previous paragraphs the issue of ability and willingness to prevent evil should not be taken as isolated assertions without context, further examination, or establishing some moral contexts (definition of evil, levels of evil, kinds of evil, how much evil to prevent) by which the assertions can be properly evaluated. Since this fourth assertion is built upon the previous three, and the previous three are in no way conclusive, then the fourth cannot be trusted as being a valid couplet.

The problems with Epicurus' statements are as follows.

  1. Evil is not defined. Therefore, the assessment of the statements cannot be validated.
  2. If evil were defined, what would justify the definition as being the right one?
  3. Epicurus presupposes a moral absolute that if God can prevent evil, then he should. But how is such a moral absolute justified as being true?
  4. The problem of how much evil (all, most, some) ought to be prevented is not addressed.
  5. The problem of preventing evil thoughts and intentions with its implication of denying free will is also not addressed.
 
alam ng lahat na mas Diyos....

"Sapagkat ang maaaring malaman tungkol sa Diyos ay maliwanag, dahil iyon ay ipinapahayag sa kanila ng Diyos. Mula pa nang likhain ng Diyos ang sanlibutan, ang kanyang likas na hindi nakikita, ang kanyang kapangyarihang walang hanggan at ang kanyang pagka-Diyos, ay maliwanag na inihahayag ng kanyang mga ginawa. Kaya't wala na silang maidadahilan pa.

Kahit na alam nilang may Diyos, siya'y hindi nila pinarangalan bilang Diyos, ni pinasalamatan man lang. Sa halip, naghaka-haka sila ng mga bagay na walang kabuluhan kaya't nagdilim ang hangal nilang pag-iisip. Tinalikuran nila ang kaluwalhatian ng Diyos na walang kamatayan, at ang sinamba nila'y mga larawan ng mga taong may kamatayan, ng mga ibon, ng mga hayop na may apat na paa, at ng mga hayop na gumagapang." - Roma 1:19‭-‬21‭, ‬23 MBB05
 
Kaya siguro merong hindi naninwala sa diyos kasi ung iba, naririnig lang sa mga tropa tropa nila, parang alak patikim tikim tapos ayun naging lasengero na, kakapakinig sa mga kasama nila. lalo na pag nahilig din ung iba sa metal songs, saka sa experience din nila kaya sinasabi nila na hindi sila naniniwala sa diyos,

meron akong nabasa dati, RAEL ung book, try nyo basahin. nakakatuwa din.
 
Pagalingan na lng mag english hahaahaha, sa finals din naman magkakaalaman kung sino totoo
Swerte mo kung naniwala kang may Dios
Malas mo ikaw na dini deny ang pag- iral ng Dios at pinusong mo pa

Kaya masasabi ko may araw din kayo,
Totoo talaga ang sinasabi ng Bible tungkol sa pagsulpot ninyo( mga athiest)

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the
 
Kaya siguro merong hindi naninwala sa diyos kasi ung iba, naririnig lang sa mga tropa tropa nila, parang alak patikim tikim tapos ayun naging lasengero na, kakapakinig sa mga kasama nila. lalo na pag nahilig din ung iba sa metal songs, saka sa experience din nila kaya sinasabi nila na hindi sila naniniwala sa diyos,

meron akong nabasa dati, RAEL ung book, try nyo basahin. nakakatuwa din.
Kaya siguro merong naniniwala sa diyos kasi ung iba, ipinanganak sa ganun paniniwala, naririnig nila sa mga pari, lalo na pag bata pakinig kinig tapos ayun na naging haling na sa relihiyon, kakapakinig sa nakapaligid sa kanila. Nakalimutan nang magsuri sa mga naririnig, tanggap nalang ng tanggap. Lalo na yung nahihilig sa worship songs, tuloy it feeds their senses until it gets consolidated and ingrained into their senses.

meron akong nabasa dati, bible yung book. marami dun benevolent at malevolent acts of gods. nakakamulat kung ano talaga ang true nature and motive of god.
 
kaya nabubully tong nga naniniwala sa diyos eh, pinipilit nilang ipush sa iba ung gusto nila. eh sa ayaw nga maniwala, kung totoo oh hindi, ano naman? magenjoy tayo sa buhay natin kesa paikutin natin sarili natin sa walang kabuluhan na bagay.
Meron pong nagpapaliwanag pero hindi po ibig sabihin namimilit.

God never uses force to anyone to know Him.
 
ang hangin di nakikita pero naniniwala ka na may hangin, sana maniwala ka din sa panginoong dios na meron kahit di nakikita pero ang gawa niya nakikita natin yan ang nagpapatunay na may diyos
 
Kaya siguro merong naniniwala sa diyos kasi ung iba, ipinanganak sa ganun paniniwala, naririnig nila sa mga pari, lalo na pag bata pakinig kinig tapos ayun na naging haling na sa relihiyon, kakapakinig sa nakapaligid sa kanila. Nakalimutan nang magsuri sa mga naririnig, tanggap nalang ng tanggap. Lalo na yung nahihilig sa worship songs, tuloy it feeds their senses until it gets consolidated and ingrained into their senses.

meron akong nabasa dati, bible yung book. marami dun benevolent at malevolent acts of gods. nakakamulat kung ano talaga ang true nature and motive of god.
hehe true po yan.
 
ang hangin di nakikita pero naniniwala ka na may hangin, sana maniwala ka din sa panginoong dios na meron kahit di nakikita pero ang gawa niya nakikita natin yan ang nagpapatunay na may diyos
False equivalence. May evidence ang hangin kahit di mo nakikita. Nararamdaman at namemeasure mo xa. Pwede mo pa ngang imanipulate kung gusto. Hindi nakikita, hindi narararamdaman, hindi naamoy, hindi naririnig, hindi nasusukat ang diyos. Walang ebidensya kahit isa. Baliw ung nagsasabing nakikipagusap daw sya sa diyos.
 
sa nag sasabing may last day, walang ganun. kahit mawasak ang mundo tuloy padin ang araw

umuulan ba sa inyu?

Ano ito kung ganun???
2Pedro 3:7,10
You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.Nguni't ang sangkalangitan ngayon, at ang lupa, sa pamamagitan ng gayon ding salita ay iningatang talaga sa apoy, na itinataan sa araw ng paghuhukom at ng paglipol sa mga taong masama.
You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.Datapuwa't darating ang araw ng Panginoon na gaya ng magnanakaw; na ang sangkalangitan sa araw na iyan ay mapaparam na kasabay ng malaking ugong, at ang mga bagay sa langit ay mapupugnaw sa matinding init, at ang lupa at ang mga gawang nasa lupa ay pawang masusunog
 

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