Its complex, sure....but how do u know its precisely tuned?That's the point our physical world is complex and precisely tune. It is impossible that is was made by accident. Even we calculate the odds, the numbers is impossibility.
The point of the argument is deductive. What's best explain reality. Can the atheism framework explain the "Why" question? Can naturalism explain the complexity of the universe? Can nothing produce something?
"The point of the argument is deductive."
There is nothing deductive with any of your statement. All you did was claim that your personal god created everything since wristwatch has a creator because your holly book says so and disregard the idea that you're god needs to have a far higher creator since any complex entity needs a creator to be made so is god because well paradox.
"What's best explain reality"
I don't know but at least I know that your personal god is the very opposite of it.
"Can the atheism framework explain the "Why" question?"
No and why should I? Atheism was there because people make big claims that they cannot provide any verifiable proof. Only people who thinks that they are somehow special will ask this question because they want to glorify their existence.
"Can naturalism explain the complexity of the universe? Can nothing produce something?"
It might be the bigbang or something that exist before the bigbang and a series of random events form billions and biliions of years might be the reason why there is a universe. Universe might be a byproduct of something that exist in the beginning of time but that something does not need to be your god or any other god. It doesn't needs to be sentient. It doesn't need to care for you. It doesn't need to watch you as you masterbate.
Its complex, sure....but how do u know its precisely tuned?
Just how long did it take for your god to "fine-tune" evrything??
How do you know that my argument is from ignorance?
I don't know but just because I don't know it means that it is your god.If its the Bigbang? What cause the Bigbang to occur in the first place?
"It might be the bigbang or something that exist before the bigbang and a series of random events form billions and biliions of years might be the reason why there is a universe. Universe might be a byproduct of something that exist in the beginning of time but that something does not need to be your god or any other god. It doesn't needs to be sentient. It doesn't need to care for you. It doesn't need to watch you as you masterbate."Can nothing produce something after a billion or trillion years? Really?
My question above? your answer below. tsk2.. Reading comprehension."It might be the bigbang or something that exist before the bigbang and a series of random events form billions and biliions of years might be the reason why there is a universe. Universe might be a byproduct of something that exist in the beginning of time but that something does not need to be your god or any other god. It doesn't needs to be sentient. It doesn't need to care for you. It doesn't need to watch you as you masterbate."
It is because believing that God created it is more probable than believing this fine-tuned universe just a by product of accident or nothing. Again, its just a summery of the whole argument you just can't make conclusion without understanding the whole.You claim that because the universe is complex, god must have created it and not only that, you also claim that it was your personal god who created it among the thousands of gods since a watch cannot be created if there is no watchmaker. Just because you do not know how the universe and life came into existence does not mean that you can just claim that it was created by your god- thus argument from ignorance. If there is a tiny bit of intellectual honesty in you at least admit that you know nothing same as I do.
That's the point. That is why I am giving an argument that theist can give an answer to the "i dont know".I don't know but just because I don't know it means that it is your god.
its not, we cant breath under water, earth is 71% water its like buying a house and most of it is flooded. Imagine pitching a house like that, "its a finely tuned house for you and your family to live in, just ignore the flooding". that's just on top of my head.Then tell me, "why does our physical world , the universe or our earth is finely tune?" For me, it is more illogical to believe that this fine tuning its just by product of accident.
yes,Let me give this to you. If I give you "nothing" plus another "nothing" would that nothing produce something after a billion years?
For the nth time please practice proper reading comprehension."It might be the bigbang or something that exist before the bigbang and a series of random events form billions and biliions of years might be the reason why there is a universe. Universe might be a byproduct of something that exist in the beginning of time but that something does not need to be your god or any other god. It doesn't needs to be sentient. It doesn't need to care for you. It doesn't need to watch you as you masterbate."
No it's not specially when you claim that it was your personal god who did it without any proof or evidence. In the fist place, the universe was never fine tuned for any of us. The majority of the universe was there to kill you not only that, you can only use 1/4 of the earth's surface to live, the remaining 3/4 consist of water that wasn't even drinkable. You are just a prisoner on this insignificant pale blue dot of a planet. Even if that pale blue planet is gone (and that will surely happen in the future), the universe will not care.It is because believing that God created it is more probable than believing this fine-tuned universe just a by product of accident or nothing. Again, its just a summery of the whole argument you just can't make conclusion without understanding the whole.
Not it's not. It's just a claim composed of especial pleading fallacy and argument from ignorance used as a placeholder to the questions you cannot answer as of now so that you will think no more.That's the point. That is why I am giving an argument that theist can give an answer to the "i dont know".
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