Closed Bakit pinahihintulutan nang diyos ang mga pagdurusa

[homer_simpson]

Si satanas parin po, di naman po gagawin yun nang diyos kung nakita niya na ang tao ay mabubuti isipin mo ito 8 na tao lang yung mubuti

Tapos ano ba ginawa nang diyos nong hindi pa dumating yung great flood? 40 years na ipinangaral ni Noah ang katutuhanan pero nag bago ba ang mga tao? Kahit isa walang may nag bago talagang ang pamilya lang talaga ni noah non ang mabubuti

Kaya naga iyon nang diyos

So sa great flood yung pamilya lang ni noah ang naligtas? Statistically-speaking, gaano kaliit ang possibility na nataon na lahat (ie, 8 persons) ng matutuwid ay family members ni noah? So wala ni-isa man na azhole na anak si noah at wala ni-isa man na matuwid sa kabilang baryo?

Eh paano yung nasa ibang kontinente na hindi nakadinig ng "magandang" balita galing kay noah? Mind you, wala pa internet nuon, twitter, facebuk etc. Is it fair that they got drowned too without knowing why?

 

[Ace106]

So sa great flood yung pamilya lang ni noah ang naligtas? Statistically-speaking, gaano kaliit ang possibility na nataon na lahat (ie, 8 persons) ng matutuwid ay family members ni noah? So wala ni-isa man na azhole na anak si noah at wala ni-isa man na matuwid sa kabilang baryo?

Eh paano yung nasa ibang kontinente na hindi nakadinig ng "magandang" balita galing kay noah? Mind you, wala pa internet nuon, twitter, facebuk etc. Is it fair that they got drowned too without knowing why?

Pinapasalamatan ko po yung malawak mong pag-iisip

Remember po dahil kay satanas ang sa kanyang mga demonyo Tinukso nila ang mga babae na magkaanak nang heganti.
Kahit san po noon may makikita kang heganti, ang tao non ay masasama talaga simula nung dumating sila,

Remember din po nakita nang diyos na mabuti si noah kaya niya ito kinausap syempre po kung may nakita siyang isang pang mabuti sa lupa non, kakausapin niya yun kung ano ang gagawin niya.

Pero sinabi sa bible na ang tao non ay puno nang karahasan.

Nasisiyahan po ako na sagutin ang mga tanong mo

 

[deejaylets]

May nakasalamuha akong Saksi ni jehova kagaya mo, niyayako ng debate... gusto ko KVJ version bible namin. pero ayaw pinaglalaban nyo kasi New World Translation nyo hahaha daming binago.. sobra talaga kayong makasalanan... hays mga False prophet

 

[deejaylets]

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Basa!

 

[deejaylets]

Ang saksi ni jehova ah hindi naniniwala sa krus Pero eto Mismong Nitso ng Founder ni na si Charles Taze Russell

 

[malakaya]

Para lang po sa naniniwala sa biblia.,

Sa tingin niyo mga boss gaano ka makapangyarihan ?

Kung ganon bakit niya pinahihintulutan ang mga pagdurusa?

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Kung nay tanong din kayo pwede niyo ako tanongin. ❤

Napanood ko po ang video at sa palagay ko ang talagang tanong nyo dito ay kung..

Bakit pinapahintulutan ng Diyos si Satanas?

Ito po ang talagang tanong nyo tama po ba?

 

[Joker_666]

Marahil kung hindi nagdusa ang tao baka nasa stone age pa rin tayo hanggang ngayon. Ang pagdurusa ay isang vital factor sa innovation ng ating civilization. Kailangan din magdusa ang tao bago matuto at mag-innovate. Noong panahon ng world war 2, maraming tao ang namatay, marami ang nagdusa, pero ano naman yung naging blessing in disguise dito - noong panahon ng world war 2 unang nadiscover ang Colossus - first generation of digital, electronic and programmable computers na meron tayo ngayon. Ginagamit lang nila ito dati para sa *****ing ng enigma codes na naging umpisa ng ating modern intelligence information. Kung hindi nangyari ang world war 2 marahil wala tayong mga digital electronics ngayon - smartphones, computers etc.

 

[homer_simpson]

Pinapasalamatan ko po yung malawak mong pag-iisip

Remember po dahil kay satanas ang sa kanyang mga demonyo Tinukso nila ang mga babae na magkaanak nang heganti.
Kahit san po noon may makikita kang heganti, ang tao non ay masasama talaga simula nung dumating sila,

Remember din po nakita nang diyos na mabuti si noah kaya niya ito kinausap syempre po kung may nakita siyang isang pang mabuti sa lupa non, kakausapin niya yun kung ano ang gagawin niya.

Pero sinabi sa bible na ang tao non ay puno nang karahasan.

Nasisiyahan po ako na sagutin ang mga tanong mo❤

Karagdagang tanong lang po.

Pwede po bang further info regarding sa mga 'heganti'? What exactly they are? Are they human or what?

Saka yun po unang tanong ko about sa miniscule possibility na nataon lahat ng good guys ay pamilya ni noah? Let's assume that noah is good and all. Can same thing be said for his entire family? Or was it a favor for noah for being such an obedient believer. If so, then god's judgement is based on alliance/association rather than on individual merit, so nepotism on the god's part. Pakibalikan po sana.

 

[homer_simpson]

Marahil kung hindi nagdusa ang tao baka nasa stone age pa rin tayo hanggang ngayon. Ang pagdurusa ay isang vital factor sa innovation ng ating civilization. Kailangan din magdusa ang tao bago matuto at mag-innovate. Noong panahon ng world war 2, maraming tao ang namatay, marami ang nagdusa, pero ano naman yung naging blessing in disguise dito - noong panahon ng world war 2 unang nadiscover ang Colossus - first generation of digital, electronic and programmable computers na meron tayo ngayon. Ginagamit lang nila ito dati para sa *****ing ng enigma codes na naging umpisa ng ating modern intelligence information. Kung hindi nangyari ang world war 2 marahil wala tayong mga digital electronics ngayon - smartphones, computers etc.

So you call World War 2, where millions were killed as a blessing in disguise? Hmm...

"Necessity is the mother of inventiveness" -- someone, someone K. Marx

Here's my take. Human curiosity and not catastrophe (such wars) is the primary force behind inventiveness. Necessity is secondary.

Based on your premise, perhaps kelangan natin ng World War III for us to develop quantum computers or warp drives.

 

[Ace106]

Napanood ko po ang video at sa palagay ko ang talagang tanong nyo dito ay kung..

Bakit pinapahintulutan ng Diyos si Satanas?

Ito po ang talagang tanong nyo tama po ba?

Kung ano po yung opinion ninyo

 

[Ace106]

May nakasalamuha akong Saksi ni jehova kagaya mo, niyayako ng debate... gusto ko KVJ version bible namin. pero ayaw pinaglalaban nyo kasi New World Translation nyo hahaha daming binago.. sobra talaga kayong makasalanan... hays mga False prophet

Bawal na po samin ngayun maki pag debate ngayun boss.
Pero kung nong nong una seguro papayagan ka nila hahaha

Sabihin niyo na po ang dapat niyong sabihin samin, wala po kaming paki alam, yung sa amin lang don kami sa mga tao na gusto malaman ang biblia,

 

[Ace106]

Ang saksi ni jehova ah hindi naniniwala sa krus Pero eto Mismong Nitso ng Founder ni na si Charles Taze Russell

Sa tingin niyo po totoo yan?
Di na kami gumagamit ngayun nang salitang pastor, wala kaming pastor. At hindi namin ngayun tinuturing na pastor si Charles Taze Russell. At hindi rin totoo na nilagyan nang cross ang bangkay niya, siya nga nag turo non na mali yan.

 

[Ace106]

Karagdagang tanong lang po.

Pwede po bang further info regarding sa mga 'heganti'? What exactly they are? Are they human or what?

Saka yun po unang tanong ko about sa miniscule possibility na nataon lahat ng good guys ay pamilya ni noah? Let's assume that noah is good and all. Can same thing be said for his entire family? Or was it a favor for noah for being such an obedient believer. If so, then god's judgement is based on alliance/association rather than on individual merit, so nepotism on the god's part. Pakibalikan po sana.

Message po kita sa tanong na ito

 

[Joker_666]

So you call World War 2, where millions were killed as a blessing in disguise? Hmm...

"Necessity is the mother of inventiveness" -- someone, someone K. Marx

Here's my take. Human curiosity and not catastrophe (such wars) is the primary force behind inventiveness. Necessity is secondary.

Based on your premise, perhaps kelangan natin ng World War III for us to develop quantum computers or warp drives.

Seriously? You did really think it that way? First of all, there is no way you can find in my statement that I said catastrophe caused by war drives innovation. You are already committing a straw man fallacy for that statement. I only mentioned about the innovation driven by world war 2 where there is a race of innovation among different countries competing for the creation of new technologies. Of course "Necessity" is correct because it is really necessary in order for them to win the war because if they didn't ***** those enigma codes using Colossus, they might not be able to invade the normandy for lack of intelligence information and they might not win the war. It may be hard to accept but wars like this transforms our civilization into a modern world we have today despite millions of casualties or collateral damages, which is of course, unacceptable. But its the reality, curiosity is not enough. Humans should be pushed to the edge of the cliff before it can create new ideas.

 

[homer_simpson]

Seriously? You did really think it that way? First of all, there is no way you can find in my statement that I said catastrophe caused by war drives innovation. You are already committing a straw man fallacy for that statement. I only mentioned about the innovation driven by world war 2 where there is a race of innovation among different countries competing for the creation of new technologies. Of course "Necessity" is correct because it is really necessary in order for them to win the war because if they didn't * those enigma codes using Colossus, they might not be able to invade the normandy for lack of intelligence information and they might not win the war. It may be hard to accept but wars like this transforms our civilization into a modern world we have today despite millions of casualties or collateral damages, which is of course, unacceptable. But its the reality, curiosity is not enough. Humans should be pushed to the edge of the cliff before it can create new ideas.

Yes seriously. C'mon, enlighten us. You did not mention it directly. You did insinuate though that if humans are struggling such as during world war 2, that will bring forth inventions. Did you mean that without war, encryption machines won't become a possibility?

You mentioned "blessing in disguise". What does it exactly mean to you? You seriously see any "blessing" in such horrible event?

Yes, "wars like this transforms our civilization into modern world". So is slavery.

Any predictions on what World War III might bring forth?

 

[Joker_666]

The phe

Yes seriously. C'mon, enlighten us. You did not mention it directly. You did insinuate though that if humans are struggling such as during world war 2, that will bring forth inventions. Did you mean that without war, encryption machines won't become a possibility?

You mentioned "blessing in disguise". What does it exactly mean to you? You seriously see any "blessing" in such horrible event?

Yes, "wars like this transforms our civilization into modern world". So is slavery.

Any predictions on what World War III might bring forth?

Absolutely, why would they waste time solving for enigma codes for nothing? Why do they need to develop that machine if they don't need to spy the enemies?

The phrase "blessing in disguise" is a figure of speech to signify a positive side that occur despite the horrible things that happen. It doesnt mean that i like people being killed. You are thinking literally, you should be more comprehensive on your judgment.

 

[homer_simpson]

So without war, there is no need for encryption? Is that what you are trying to say? No, I am not being literal. I am wondering why, despite of horrible events like that you are still able to find its justifications, ie its the driving force behind inventions.

Inventions are innate to some individuals. They don't need to be pushed because the drive is already within them. But ordinary people, you can only push so far.

To put it succinctly, we had a lot to thank for events like that, such that it bring forth the best of humans. It extracts the imaginative qualities of us albeit in killing.

Now to go back to the topic, we had a lot to thank for god's atrocities as they are just mere "challenges". Yes, no?

 

[Ace106]

So without war, there is no need for encryption? Is that what you are trying to say? No, I am not being literal. I am wondering why, despite of horrible events like that you are still able to find its justifications, ie its the driving force behind inventions.

Inventions are innate to some individuals. They don't need to be pushed because the drive is already within them. But ordinary people, you can only push so far.

To put it succinctly, we had a lot to thank for events like that, such that it bring forth the best of humans. It extracts the imaginative qualities of us albeit in killing.

Now to go back to the topic, we had a lot to thank for god's atrocities as they are just mere "challenges". Yes, no?

Nose bleed haha, James 1:13 hindi po tayo chinachallenges nang diyos hindi si satanas po, check niyo inbox niyo

 

[Joker_666]

So without war, there is no need for encryption? Is that what you are trying to say? No, I am not being literal. I am wondering why, despite of horrible events like that you are still able to find its justifications, ie its the driving force behind inventions.

Inventions are innate to some individuals. They don't need to be pushed because the drive is already within them. But ordinary people, you can only push so far.

To put it succinctly, we had a lot to thank for events like that, such that it bring forth the best of humans. It extracts the imaginative qualities of us albeit in killing.

Now to go back to the topic, we had a lot to thank for god's atrocities as they are just mere "challenges". Yes, no?

That's the reality. Both of us may not agree with it but that's the reality of human nature. Observe it, there were lots of discoveries and inventions during war.

I am not sure what to answer from your last question. I am a realist, not a religious one.

 

[Kryptonite_Atom]

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