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Useless na ba ang mga covid vaccines dahil sa omicron?

NBIPolice

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Mild lang daw ang symptoms ng omicron pero mabilis makahawa at according sa mga scientist eh mas malakas ang nabibigay na immunity nito kesa sa mga vaccines. So, useless na ba magpabakuna ngayon para sa covid. Bakuna na hindi nakakapagbigay ng immunity?
 

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Not all vaccines are treated equal..
Some are more effective than others. Hanap ka ng research na may updated data based on the current testing nila
 
di lang naman omicron ang virus. may mutation ang virus kaya kailangan pa din may vaxx
kaso lang di pa updated ang vaxx. Wala pa nga booster for omicron eh. Pero un omicron daw nakakapagbigay ng immunitiy for all variants pag nahawaan na.

Not all vaccines are treated equal..
Some are more effective than others. Hanap ka ng research na may updated data based on the current testing nila
Not equal pero all of them wala pa booster against omicron while omicron can give immunity to all covid variants.
 

_Antares

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kaso lang di pa updated ang vaxx. Wala pa nga booster for omicron eh. Pero un omicron daw nakakapagbigay ng immunitiy for all variants pag nahawaan na.


Not equal pero all of them wala pa booster against omicron while omicron can give immunity to all covid variants.
Omicron can only give some immunity for delta variant and if it's really effective payag ka bang sadya kang hawahan just to get that immunity or will you stick to vaccine?

If you got infected by omicron can you just go to the mall or other countries that requires vaccination records and just say nah it's fine i already got omicron so it's fine.
 
Omicron can only give some immunity for delta variant and if it's really effective payag ka bang sadya kang hawahan just to get that immunity or will you stick to vaccine?
But the vaccines doesn't give you immunity. Makes me wonder why they are still enforcing it when it doesn't give any protection. Even the vaccinated are getting hospitalized and having severe symptoms :unsure::unsure::unsure:
 

_Antares

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But the vaccines doesn't give you immunity. Makes me wonder why they are still enforcing it when it doesn't give any protection. Even the vaccinated are getting hospitalized and having severe symptoms :unsure::unsure::unsure:
I don't really believe in vaccine pero what can we do? Nirerequire yan di lng dito satin. Although we have a choice not to take it pero malilimitahan nman kilos natin they wouldn't honor the reasoning of previously having tested positive of covid thus being immune as an excuse.
 

plhbg1

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noted na iyan na if covid survivor ka meron ka na immunity kaya nga least priority ang survivors sa mga vaccination

kaya yung ayaw magpa vax edi magpa hawa na lang kay omicron for immunity, just be sure to survive
 
But the vaccines doesn't give you immunity. Makes me wonder why they are still enforcing it when it doesn't give any protection. Even the vaccinated are getting hospitalized and having severe symptoms :unsure::unsure::unsure:
Hindi naman po talaga immunity ang effect ng vaccine, kundi protection

"The best available evidence suggests unvaccinated people are more likely to contract the omicron variant than those who are fully vaccinated"

Sample:
"In the week ending Jan. 10, new coronavirus infections per 100,000 fully vaccinated residents in New York stood at 219, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. from the state health department. The rate of new cases in unvaccinated adults, on the other hand, was nearly eight times higher, at 1,706 per 100,000 people."
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Kahit po sa local news natin, majority ng nao ospital, at nag se severe ay unvaccinated.

Pag unvaccinated po kayo, mas likely kayo mag ka Omicron, at mas makakapagkalat kayo nito
Pag mas kakalat ang Omicron, mas madami syang chance mag mutate, tataas possibility na may next variant na naman

kaso lang di pa updated ang vaxx. Wala pa nga booster for omicron eh. Pero un omicron daw nakakapagbigay ng immunitiy for all variants pag nahawaan na.

Not equal pero all of them wala pa booster against omicron while
Yan ang best we have for now, kumbaga kung nagmo-motor kayo, walang pambili ng full body armor, mag makapal na maong muna, iwas gasgas at galos, kahit hindi full protection

Kung tayo lang po, OK lang, pero paano yung bata, elderly, immuno compromised, etc.
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"You have some defences, so you're not going to get very sick, but you could pick up junior and grow it in your nose and pass it on to someone unvaccinated, like kids."

Isa pa, a few years data pa lang meron tayo ng COVID, may "long covid" pa po, hindi pa natin alam ang ibang long term effects. Di pa natin nakikita ang mga effects 5, 10, or 20 years later. So mas OK pa rin na maavoid ang Omicron.

omicron can give immunity to all covid variants.
Masyado po yatang sweeping itong statement na ito, lalo na yung "immunity" at "all"
Baka mas maganda pag "better protection from previous variants" kaysa "immunity"
Hindi pa po natin nakikita yung future mutations or variants so mahirap sabihin na "all"

Wag na mag pa vaccine
Wala naman po ng problem ito, pero mas applicable ito kung sana kung nasa isla kayo, or fully isolated lagi
Kaso, ang reality, kumbaga "iisang bangka tayo" so baka kasi ma transmitan niyo ang mga bata, elderly, mahina immune system

Again, pag unvaccinated po kayo, mas likely kayo magka Omicron, at mas makakapagkalat kayo nito
Pag mas kakalat ang Omicron, mas madami syang chance mag mutate, tataas possibility na may next variant na naman
 
pwede pa rin mahawaan kaya useless
Masyadong sweeping naman lods na tawaging useless

Kung no effect whatsoever, OK, useless nga
Totoo, may breaktrough infection pa din

Pero kung may
-protection from severe covid
-protection from ma ospital (200k sa public, 700k sa private, may mga artista 1.7M nagastos)
-protection from kamatayan (25k yata ang cremation)
-less chance from spreading sa mga bata, matanda, may ibang sakit
-less chance si SarsCov2 maka mutate at magkaroon ng susunod na variant sa Omicron
Useless po ba yun lods?
 

Bold

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Pero kung may
-protection from severe covid
-protection from ma ospital (200k sa public, 700k sa private, may mga artista 1.7M nagastos)
-protection from kamatayan (25k yata ang cremation)
-less chance from spreading sa mga bata, matanda, may ibang sakit
-less chance si SarsCov2 maka mutate at magkaroon ng susunod na variant sa Omicron
Useless po ba yun lods?
Namamatay pa rin mga bakunado at mas madami nahohospitalized kesa unvaccinated. I know this dahil in-law ko ay doctor sa hospital. Manipulated ang data na nilalabas ng DOH. Wag agad magpapaniwala sa mainstream media. Dun kayo sa mismong mga health workers magtanong ng real info. I remember meron din isang medical technologist dito ang nagbigay warning na wag na pabakuna kung may sakit.
 

hibestie

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no choice bestiee need required na may vaccine card ka, well technically hindi sya required but still parang minamandatory na nila sa mga limitation shuta no vaccine no ride AHAHHAHAHAHHA
 
Namamatay pa rin mga bakunado at mas madami nahohospitalized kesa unvaccinated
Mahirap paniwalaan ito lods na walang source
Pwede sigurong may mamatay kahit vaccinated
Pero yung mas madaming affected na vaccinated vs unvaccinated? Far fetched
Meron po ba lods kahit isang report or reliable na figure nyan? Or anecdotal, or kwento ang source?

I know this dahil in-law ko ay doctor sa hospital.
Kung ganon po, dapat lumapit siyasa awtoridad para ma correct yung mga media.
Kasi siguradong number 1 sa news yan kasi kabaligtaran ng lahat ng reports na nakikita at nababasa ko.

Manipulated ang data na nilalabas ng DOH.
May proof ba nito lods? Dapat din i report ito sa media at sureball din na mag #1 news yan lalo pag may "resibo" ika nga. Or baka naman anecdote na naman ito or kwento?
Isa pa lods, ano naman po ang motivation ng DOH para gawin iyon? Ito na naman ba yung mga conspiracy theory na para kumita yung vaccine makers?

Wag agad magpapaniwala sa mainstream media.
OK lang ako diyan lods, sige, isantabi natin ang mainstream media.
Pero mag present po kayo ng alternative source na reliable din.
Yung mga totoong journalist na may code of ethics na sinusunod. Yung nag co correct din ng sariling mistake, nag fa-fact check. Sana yung mga katulad ng naka list dito.
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Wag yung mga galing lang sa SocMed, sa blogs, at kung saan saan pa na unreliable ang info. At minsa pa nga e straight na disinformation.

Dun kayo sa mismong mga health workers magtanong ng real info.
Mga health workers po ang nagtatally ng mga cases, figures, lab tests, etc.

I remember meron din isang medical technologist dito ang nagbigay warning na wag na pabakuna kung may sakit.
Sa lahat po ng vaccination dadaan po muna kayo sa Doktor, i-a-assess po kayo kung pwede bakunahan or hind. SOP naman po yan, so tama naman yang
 
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