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  • Christianity and Islam are similar in essential teachings, but vary in interpretations
Islam Present a Perfect image of God while Christians say that there are 'three parts' of God-all having the same authority and power
  • For Example, let us compare the concept of god in old Testament the new testament and then the Holy Quran to get a better picture

The Concept of God in the old Testament
  • In Deuteronomy 6:4-9, the oneness of god is Mention in the following words:
"Hear, O israel: The Lord our God the Lord is one you shall love the Lord your God with all
your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. and these words that command

you today shall be on your heart. you shall teach them diligently to your children,etc

* This is the first commandment of the bible, in which Moses teaches the Concept of God
(Which is the spirit of religion)
* Here, no partner has been attributed to God

  • Unfortunately, the Christian say that when moses spoke of God he presented an incomplete picture which is why he did not preach Trinity
*However, when jesus came he gave us the true concept of god
(Which according to them, is Trinity)

The Concept of God in the New Testament
  • In Mark 12:28-30, jesus was asked about the most important commandment, to which he eloquently replied
And one of the Scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, ask him "which Commandment is the most important of all?" Jesus answered "The Most important is, "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our god the Lord is one And you shall love the lord your god with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength '

* Therefore, as is evident from this quote, jesus was also preaching the unity of God just like Moses and he taught nothing apart from that

He never mentioned the concept of Trinity - Why should the Christians believe in it then?

* The fact is that the New testament has given an incomplete picture of God and no one has harmed this important concept more than paul

O ano sabi ni jesus hindi naman sya nag sabi Lord is two pero the Lord is one Walang iba


The Concept of God in the Holy Qur'an
  • Like the Bible, the first commandment of the holy Quran concerns the unity of God
But contrary to all other concepts, this book presents the most beautiful and complete concept of god which is does not follow any incorrect misinterpretations
  • Thus, God Says in Surah al-Baqarah, Verses 22-23:
O ye men, worship your lord who created you and those who were before you, that you may became righteous; who made the earth a bed for you, and the heaven a roof, and sustenance. Set not up, therefore, equals to allah , while you know. (2:22-23)
  • The Bible's is very vague - all it says is that God should be loved; how or why? it does not say
* On the other hand the Holy Quran goes a step further and says that you should 'worship' your Lord God- and it has thus taught us how to love him
* Worship is an extreme level of love - we all love our parents, for example but we would never worship them

The Islamic concept of God is Flawless and no religion can Match it Because they have no solid Beliefs

It's up to you believe it or not God is god im just sharing my knowledge about religion as long as we live mga ka phc







 
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The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to perfectly and completely understand it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are; therefore, we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different Persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean the Trinity is not true or that it is not based on the teachings of the Bible.

The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God—three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who are God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:

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2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). In You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the Hebrew plural noun 'Elohim' is used. In You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word 'Elohim' and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for 'God,' 'Elohim,' definitely allows for the Trinity.

In You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. to You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. to see that it is the Son speaking. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.

3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The LORD has a Son (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) and from “God” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity—the Father.

4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Son is God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Holy Spirit is God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Concerning the Holy Spirit see You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., and especially You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); divine revelation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); salvation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); and Jesus' human works (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Father initiates all of these things.

The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); divine revelation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); and salvation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.

The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); divine revelation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); salvation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); and Jesus' works (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.

There have been many attempts to develop illustrations of the Trinity. However, none of the popular illustrations are completely accurate. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves, just as the skin, flesh, and seeds of the apple are parts of it, not the apple itself. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better, but it still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God. So, while these illustrations may give us a picture of the Trinity, the picture is not entirely accurate. An infinite God cannot be fully described by a finite illustration.

The doctrine of the Trinity has been a divisive issue throughout the entire history of the Christian church. While the core aspects of the Trinity are clearly presented in God’s Word, some of the side issues are not as explicitly clear. The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God—but there is only one God. That is the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. Beyond that, the issues are, to a certain extent, debatable and non-essential. Rather than attempting to fully define the Trinity with our finite human minds, we would be better served by focusing on the fact of God's greatness and His infinitely higher nature. “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).
 
I know that we have different beliefs, but let us ask ourselves if these are really true. It is not the religion that can save us(See John 14:6). Let us not fight one another, for we are children of God who are supposed to share love to one another. Think of the greater good it brings when we ought living a love-driven atmosphere.

While some similarities exist between Islam and Christianity (they are both monotheistic religions, for example), their differences are clear-cut, significant, and irreconcilable. For this article, we will survey four key areas: the founders of the two religions, the contrasting views of God, the sacred literature, and the means of salvation. We will see that Islam differs from Christianity in each of those four areas.

Islam and Christianity: Founders of the Religions

Islam was founded by an Arab merchant named Muhammed about AD 622. Muhammed claimed to have received a revelation from an angel of God, and, although he initially feared his revelation had come from Satan, Muhammed later claimed to be the last and greatest of all of God’s prophets. Muhammed had fifteen wives (although he limited other men to four wives apiece) and sanctioned the beating of wives (Sura 4:34). Muhammed was well known for spreading his new religion by force. He commanded, “Fight and slay the Pagans wherever you find them” (Sura 9:5), and he specified the proper way to execute an unbeliever was to cut his throat (Sura 47:4). Muhammed led raids against caravans to plunder their goods, broke oaths, ordered the murder of those who mocked him, and wiped out the last Jewish tribe in Medina—he killed all the men and enslaved the women and children. Interestingly, Muhammed acknowledged his own need to seek God’s forgiveness on occasion (Sura 40:55).

In stark contrast to the moral depravity of Muhammed, Jesus Christ was above reproach in every way (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). Jesus never married, He defended and honored women (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.), and His law was “love one another” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). Accordingly, Jesus never assassinated anyone, never beat a woman, never enslaved a child, never broke a promise, and never plundered a caravan. On the cross, when Jesus was mocked by those nearby, His response was, “Father, forgive them” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Islam and Christianity: Views of God

Islam teaches that Allah, or God, is the sovereign Creator and Ruler of all that is. Muslims emphasize God’s absolute unity, which will admit of no division, and God’s will. In fact, the will of God is more basic to who He is than His love or mercy. God could choose not to be merciful, and He can choose not to love; thus, Allah’s mercy and love are not intrinsic to His nature but are choices He makes. More important than loving God—or even knowing Him—is submitting to His will. The word Islam means “submission.” According to Islam, God cannot be considered a “father” and He has no son. Allah does not love sinners (Surah 3:140).

Similar to Islam, Christianity teaches that God is the sovereign Creator and Ruler of all that is—but that is about where the similarity ends. Christians believe in one God who exists in three eternal, co-equal Persons (Father, Son, and Spirit) who share the same indivisible essence. According to Christianity, God loves because His very nature is love (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.)—not just because He happens to choose to love. God’s essence includes the attribute of mercy, so divine displays of mercy are more than choices God makes; they are extensions of His character. God is knowable and desires a relationship with us based on love (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). Obeying God is important, but obedience without a relationship based on love is worthless (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). According to Christianity, God the Father has an eternal relationship with God the Son. God does love sinners (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Islam and Christianity: Sacred Literature

Islam holds that the Torah (the first five books of the Old Testament), the Psalms, and the Gospels were given by God—with this caveat: Jews and Christians have corrupted God’s Word and therefore Bibles cannot be fully trusted. Muslims believe that God’s final Word, the Qur’an, was miraculously given to Muhammed over a period of twenty-three years. The Qur’an, which is perfect and holy, is divided into 114 chapters called suras. In addition to the Qur’an, the Muslims have the Hadith, a collection of Muhammed’s sayings, opinions, and actions as reported by those close to him.

Biblical Christianity holds that the Old and New Testaments of the Bible are God’s inspired Word and the only authoritative rule of faith and practice. The Bible warns against adding to God’s Word (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.); Christians reject the Qur’an as an attempted addition to God’s Word and as a document that contradicts the Bible in many ways.

Islam and Christianity: Means of Salvation

Islam teaches a works-based salvation and in this way is similar to other man-made religions. A Muslim must keep the five pillars of Islam: he must confess the shahadah (“there is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his prophet”); he must kneel in prayer toward Mecca five times a day; he must fast during the daylight hours one month of the year (Ramadan); he must give money to the poor; and he must make a pilgrimage to Mecca sometime in his lifetime. Islam teaches that the day of judgment will involve a person’s good and bad deeds being weighed in a balance—so the standard for judgment is one’s own actions (Surah 7:8-9; 21:47). The Qur’an forbids anyone from bearing another’s burden of sin (Surah 17:15; 35:18) and pointedly denies the death of Jesus (or Isa) on the cross (Surah 3:55; 4:157–158). If you will be saved, you must save yourself.

Christianity teaches a grace-based salvation. A person is saved by the grace (the undeserved blessing) of God, through faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The standard for judgment is absolute perfection—the righteousness of Christ. No one can measure up to perfection (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.), but God in His grace and mercy has given His Son as the substitute for our sin: “When you were dead in your sins . . . God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). We cannot save ourselves, so we turn to Christ, our sinless Savior and the author and finisher of our faith (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Islam and Christianity, having different beliefs on essential doctrines such as God, Jesus, Scripture, and salvation, are irreconcilable. Both religions cannot be true. We believe that Jesus Christ, as presented in the Bible, is the true Son of God and Savior of mankind. “Grace and truth came through Jesus Christ” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).
 

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