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First of all , masaya ako at marunong na ako mag upload ng video na kung saan nag edit-edit pa ako. Pangalawa , ito ang maikling history ng bible na gusto ko eshare. Inedit ko pa dahil ang una ay mahaba kung magrerely mismo sa original video. Credit itong video sa may ari. Hiniram ko lang as in. Enlighten lang para sa akin. Ewan ko sa ibang tao na manonood.

Anyway , ang mga ipinapaliwanag ko dito sa phcorner ay hindi ako nag-iimbento , hindi ko siya ideology or whatever. Iniisip siguro ng mga tao na nagbabasa ng mga thread , comment and reply ko ay pawang nag iilusyon lang ako which is hindi ako nag iilusyon and so ito na ang video na gusto ko e share sa inyong lahat.

Salamat sa panonood ng video na ito.​



 

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I imagine, thousand years later, pag hinukay ng mga archeologist ang mga remnants natin sa Pilipinas, iisipin din nila polytheistic din tayo. 😆
 
I imagine, thousand years later, pag hinukay ng mga archeologist ang mga remnants natin sa Pilipinas, iisipin din nila polytheistic din tayo. 😆

True. Meron din tayo God(s) at Goddess(es) dati sa Pilipinas sina Bathala. Iyon ata ang God Sky pagkatapos.... maraming tayong God(s) at Goddess(es). It is either animism or paganism ata tayo. Sina Maria Makiling ba iyon? Goddess of mountain ata siya. I am not sure. Sabi nga na culture shock daw ang mga espanyol nang nakita daw na ganoon ang kultura ng Pilipinas and so , itinuro sa atin ang Kristianismo.

Bago Kristianismo , meron nang unang dumating. Islam ba iyon? Basta. Malalim na siya. Ayaw ko na edig deeper pa dahil meron pa ako gagawin na iba bukod dito sa phcorner.

Ang iniisip ko si Zeus at si Bathala ay same God Sky lang ang dalawa. Parang iyon ata. Same lang ata sa other polytheistic deities noon unang panahon na labas sa bansang Pilipinas.

Ganun.​
 

True. Meron din tayo God(s) at Goddess(es) dati sa Pilipinas sina Bathala. Iyon ata ang God Sky pagkatapos.... maraming tayong God(s) at Goddess(es). It is either animism or paganism ata tayo. Sina Maria Makiling ba iyon? Goddess of mountain ata siya. I am not sure. Sabi nga na culture shock daw ang mga espanyol nang nakita daw na ganoon ang kultura ng Pilipinas and so , itinuro sa atin ang Kristianismo.

Bago Kristianismo , meron nang unang dumating. Islam ba iyon? Basta. Malalim na siya. Ayaw ko na edig deeper pa dahil meron pa ako gagawin na iba bukod dito sa phcorner.

Ang iniisip ko si Zeus at si Bathala ay same God Sky lang ang dalawa. Parang iyon ata. Same lang ata sa other polytheistic deities noon unang panahon na labas sa bansang Pilipinas.

Ganun.​
What I meant is kahit ung current society aakalain polytheist ng mga archeologist sa future. Meron din kasi tayo mga remnants ng mga ibat ibang figures. Like, mga santo at santa.
 
anung verse sa bible tungkol sa ashera ts​

Sige na nga. Ako na nga lang maghahanap. Ito po ang bible verse.

1 Kings 14:23; 2 Kings 17:10
1 Kings 14:15, 2 Kings 16:3–4


" The association of Asherah with trees in the Hebrew Bible is very strong. For example, she is found under trees and is made of wood by human beings "​
 
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Dagdag ko lang.

Ito pala ang bible verse kung saan si God Yahweh daw ay dinivorce niya si Goddess Asherah.

Hosea 2 : " Rebuke your mother, rebuke her, for she is not my wife, and I am not her husband. Let her remove the adulterous look from her face and the unfaithfulness from between her breasts.

Ito ang rason why I still believe na from polytheistic dieties ay naging monotheistic deity na tayo ngayon which is one and only true God.

Iyon lang.​
 
Dagdag ko lang.

Ito pala ang bible verse kung saan si God Yahweh daw ay dinivorce niya si Goddess Asherah.

Hosea 2 : " Rebuke your mother, rebuke her, for she is not my wife, and I am not her husband. Let her remove the adulterous look from her face and the unfaithfulness from between her breasts.

Ito ang rason why I still believe na from polytheistic dieties ay naging monotheistic deity na tayo ngayon which is one and only true God.

Iyon lang.​
Binasa ko yan chapter ng hosea. Ang lumalabas para sakin ay pra bang narrative ito na ginamit ng yahweh followers para ma facilitate ang conversion ng baal/asherah believer. Same sa atin na kung pano pinalabas ng Spanish na iisa si bathalang Maykapal at Diyos. Over time nakalimutan na natin ung Bathala, At naging Diyos nlng.
So hnd tlga siya iisang belief system na polytheist into monotheist. It is more like a supreme god assuming the identity of another God to sway them into the new belief system.
 

Did God Have a Wife?​

The claim is that God in the Old Testament had a wife named Asherah, and the Israelites worshiped her along with him. So where can we find this wife of God?​

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Various social media sites have claimed that—in the Old Testament—God originally had a wife whom the Israelites worshipped. This goddess was named Asherah, and she is mentioned at various places in the Hebrew scriptures.

The claim is made that we have no biblical texts that can be confidently dated prior to the reign of King Josiah (640-609 B.C.) that condemn the worship of this goddess. Before that time, it was allegedly normative for Israelites to worship Asherah alongside God.

How accurate are these claims? Not very.

It’s true that there was a goddess named Asherah who was worshipped in the Ancient Near East, and it’s true that some Israelites worshiped her.

But it is false to claim that this was a normative practice among Israelites—and that we have no texts from before the time of Josiah condemning the practice.

To understand the situation, we need to understand how the Israelite religion developed.

As a nation, Israel was descended from the patriarch Abraham, who came from “Ur of the Chaldees” (Gen. 12:28)—meaning he was from Mesopotamia, or modern Iraq.

As a native of Mesopotamia, Abraham was raised in the religion of the area, which centered on various Eastern deities.

But the Bible records that eventually, the true God—the Creator of the universe—called Abraham to leave Mesopotamia and come to the Promised Land of Canaan.

This is discussed in the book of Joshua, which states:

Joshua said to all the people, “Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘Your fathers lived of old beyond the Euphrates, Terah, the father of Abraham and of Nahor; and they served other gods.
‘Then I took your father Abraham from beyond the River and led him through all the land of Canaan, and made his offspring many’” (24:2-3).
The Bible thus acknowledges that—before God appeared to him—Abraham worshiped other gods, which was the normal practice of people in the Ancient Near East.

When Abraham came to Canaan, it was filled with its own people, who also worshiped a variety of gods.

Later, when Abraham’s descendants spent time in Egypt, they also lived among a polytheistic people.

Being surrounded by polytheistic people meant that the Israelites were tempted to join their neighbors in worshiping other gods, and they sometimes did so.

They even did so during the Exodus, as Moses was leading them out of Egypt and back to the Promised Land. This is illustrated by the golden calf incident (Exod. 32) and by Moses’ instruction to offer their sacrifices to God, saying, “They may no longer sacrifice their sacrifices to the goat-idols after which they were prostituting” (Lev. 17:7, LEB).

People did engage in these practices, but that doesn’t mean it was acceptable to do so. Thus, after the golden calf incident,

Moses’ anger burned hot, and he threw the tables out of his hands and broke them at the foot of the mountain.
And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it with fire, and ground it to powder, and scattered it upon the water, and made the sons of Israel drink it.
And Moses said to Aaron, “What did this people do to you that you have brought a great sin upon them?” (Exod. 32:19-21).
It was similarly recognized that, upon returning to Canaan, the polytheistic inhabitants could tempt the Israelites into being unfaithful to God. Concerning the Canaanites, God says:

You shall make no covenant with them or with their gods.
They shall not dwell in your land, lest they make you sin against me; for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare to you” (Exod. 23:32-33).
Also, God made a covenant with the Israelites that they would worship only him. This requirement is explicit in the Ten Commandments:

“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
“You shall have no other gods before me.
“You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth” (Exod. 20:2-4).
The Bible thus depicts orthodox Israelite religion as involving the worship of God alone. However, it frankly acknowledges that unorthodox Israelites could and did worship other deities.

The struggle against this is a major theme in the Bible, and the prophets regularly condemn Israelites for worshiping other gods. You cannot read the Old Testament without repeatedly encountering this theme.

So what about Asherah? She was a goddess worshiped by the Canaanites—as well as other people in the Ancient Near East—and she was often regarded as the wife of the high god.

In the Canaanite pantheon, the high god—the head of the pantheon of gods—was named El, which is the Hebrew word for “God.”

El was also named Yahweh, and some Canaanites regarded Asherah as the wife of Yahweh.

Under the influence of their Canaanite neighbors, some Israelites did worship her—just as they worshiped other gods, like Ba’al and Milcom.

But according to the Old Testament, by doing this, they departed from the normative, orthodox Israelite religion and did things they were not supposed to.

What about the claim that this was normative before the time of King Josiah? Two points need to be made.

First, the theory depends on a very late dating of the biblical texts. There is good evidence that the books of Exodus and Leviticus were written around the time of David and Solomon (c. 1000 B.C.)—long before Josiah.

Furthermore, we have other texts before Josiah condemning the worship of Asherah.

For example, Isaiah 17:8 prophesies that a time is coming when the Israelites “will not have regard for the altars, the work of their hands, and they will not look to what their own fingers have made, either the Asherim or the altars of incense” to pagan gods.

The Asherim were pole-like religious objects used to worship Asherah, and even liberal scholars acknowledge that Isaiah 17 was written during the time of the prophet Isaiah (eighth century B.C.), well before Josiah (seventh century B.C.).

Even earlier was the event recorded in 1 Kings 15:13: King Asa “removed Maacah his mother from being queen mother because she had an abominable image made for Asherah; and Asa cut down her image and burned it at the brook Kidron.”

Asa reigned between 912 and 870 B.C., and while 1 Kings wasn’t written until later, it records events repudiating Asherah that took place long before Josiah.

Second, the “Asherah worship was normative” view is just cherry-picking Old Testament texts.

If—at one time—it was orthodox for Israelites to worship Asherah, where are the texts praising her?

There aren’t any.

Advocates of this view must argue that any texts that were positive toward her were removed, and new, negative passages were introduced after Josiah.

That’s simply cherry-picking. You can prove anything you want—on any subject you want—if you get to pick evidence you think favors your position and ignore all evidence to the contrary.

For example, you could “prove” that the original thirteen U.S. colonies were founded by Russian immigrants by saying that—later on—all the references to Russian immigrants were mysteriously removed from our historical documents and replaced by references saying the colonies were founded by English colonists.

The fact is, the texts we have in the Old Testament indicate that orthodox Israelites worshiped the true God, that unorthodox Israelites also worshiped other gods like Asherah, and that this practice was condemned from very early times.

Dagdag ko lang.

Ito pala ang bible verse kung saan si God Yahweh daw ay dinivorce niya si Goddess Asherah.

Hosea 2 : " Rebuke your mother, rebuke her, for she is not my wife, and I am not her husband. Let her remove the adulterous look from her face and the unfaithfulness from between her breasts.

Ito ang rason why I still believe na from polytheistic dieties ay naging monotheistic deity na tayo ngayon which is one and only true God.

Iyon lang.​
Hosea 2:2

Makipagtalo kayo sa inyong ina, makipagtalo kayo; sapagka't siya'y hindi ko asawa, ni ako man ay kaniyang asawa; at alisin niya ang kaniyang pagpapatutot sa kaniyang mukha, at ang kaniyang mga pangangalunya sa pagitan ng kaniyang mga suso;


Yong pong tinutukoy na asawa diyan ay sumisimbolo sa bayang israel noong una as "unfaithful wife"wala pong kinalaman si asherah diyan.
 
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Ito lang ang ibig sabihin based sa isinulat about hindi totoo si God Yahweh at si Goddess Asherah ay mag-asawa.

1. Ang mga nag dedefend ng bible na keyso si God Yahweh at si Goddess Asherah ay hindi mag-asawa ay ang binabasehan lamang ay ang biblia. Obvious naman kase. Hindi naman talaga sila lumalabas outside bible. Kailan ba sila lumabas outside bible? Naniniwala lamang ang tao sa nilalaman ng biblia pero ang labas ng biblia ay pawang hindi na totoo katulad na lang sa human evolution. Outside bible siya malamang at meron na nakakitang mga human fossils at mga human bones sa ilalim ng lupa na dig mismo ng mga eksperto.

Anong defend ng mga tao na naniniwala in the bible? Ang sabi ay hindi totoo ang mga human fossils at ang mga human bones na edig sa ilalim ng lupa and then edinifend at ipinaliwanag kung kagaano katotoo ang Adam at Eve na galing mismong alikabok.

Then ito pagdating kay God Yahweh at Goddess Asherah ay siyempre , outside bible siya malamang. Hindi naman sila nanatili na bible lang. Ang tao na gusto tuklasin kung totoo o hindi ay possible na mag-iinvestigate sila outside bible para malaman kung ano meron sa bible.

2. Dinidefend ng mga tao ang kanilang faith. Obvious naman. Faith kase nila iyan. Ang faith ay hindi nakikita ng mata. To believe is to see ang kanila. Ang ibig sabihin na hindi na kailangan ng evidence para mapatunayan na totoo ang faith na hinahawakan ng tao mismo. Kung kaya kahit hindi nakikita ng mga tao ang mismong nilalaman ng biblia at ipinaliwanag lang ang ilan content written bible , automatic ay totoo nasa kanila at iyon ang kino consider na evidence para sa kanila.

3. The reason na bakit hindi tatanggapin ng mga tao na naniniwala sa biblia ang patungkol kay God Yahweh na asawa nito kay Goddess Asherah ay magiging conflict kase sa kanila ang itinatawag na faith na hinahawakan nila. Faith kung saan na naniniwala sila na ang mismong God Yahweh ay 100% na hindi ginawa ng mga tao noon unang panahon.

Naniniwala ang ilan tao sa bibilia na wala daw gumawa kay God Yahweh. In the bible verse kase , ang nakalagay ay God is the beginning and the end. Meaning to say , ang mga tao na naniniwala sa biblia ay pagdating sa katagang na develop from simple to complex society , culture , human forms gradually at maraming iba pa ay literal speaking na hindi talaga nila paniniwalaan ang mga iyan.

Take example ang Adam at Eve. Ang mga tao na naniniwala in the bible ay obvious na ang gusto lang paniwalaan ay na develop agad ng mabilisan si Adam at Eve sa mismong alikabok o sa mismong lupa in one day versus sa explaination about human evolution kung saan gradually ay na develop siya bago tayo nakarating in the present days. It takes how many years bago tayo na evolve as human being.

Take example kay God Yahweh and Goddess Asherah. Ang God Yahweh ay paniniwalaan lang ng tao iyan kapag walang kilalaman sa polytheist deities sapagkat sini-separate ng mga tao na naniniwala na hindi kabilang si God Yahweh sa polytheist. Ang paniniwalaan nila ay God Yahweh ay one and true God. God Yahweh ay unique at hindi kabilang sa mga polytheist deities sapagkat fake lahat ng mga polythiest deities or mga pagan Gods at Goddesses at under ni Satanas ang lahat ng mga iyan at God Yahweh lang ang totoo. God Yahweh na hindi gawa ng tao. God Yahweh na hindi nakikita ng mata at God Yahweh na isang supernatural being sa lahat.

Well , tama. Huwag na sila maniwala patungkol kay God Yahweh at Goddess Asherah kung ang evidence lang pala para sa mga tao na naniniwala in the bible lamang ay based on sa hindi nakikita ng mata.

4. Lahat ng paniniwala ay mahilig sa cherry picking. So kung sinasabi na cherry picking kuno ang mga tao na nagsaliksik patungkol sa dalawang deities which is si God Yahweh at si Goddess Asherah , cherry picking din ang mga tao na naniniwala in the bible and so wala naman ipinagkaiba. Sa katunayan nga na ang cherry picking na ginagawa ng mga tao in the bible ay siya ang dahilan kung bakit nagkaroon ng iba-ibang interpretasyon sa biblia at kung bakit nagkaroon ng iba-ibang relihiyon sa buong mundo.

5. Putol ang video na ipinakita ko dahil enedit ko lang kase siya dahil masyadong mahaba ang documentary. Ang estimate siguro ay aabot ng 2 hours to 3 hours ata but kung papanoorin mismo ng buo , andoon sinasabi na how polytheist cult became monotheist modern religion. Andiyan ang explaination about king David , about Moses and about Egypt. Andiyan ipinaliwanag na paano ang pagsisimula ng spiritual evolution at panimula ng pagkakaroon ng one God.

Iyan ang bible secrets na hindi alam ng mga tao na buklat based on archeological excavation na ginawa.

Okay lang na hindi mo paniwalaan ang patungkol kay God Yahweh at Goddess Asherah na ika nga na mag-asawa. Walang sampilitan hehehe 😁

Nag upload ako ng video at nag share ako dahil noon , namulat din ako na kung baga na enlighten ako and that time ay nahiligan ko na si Goddess Asherah na kahit ultimong username ko ay Goddess Asherah pa rin hahahaha :LOL:

I show support about God Yahweh had a wife na si Goddess Asherah dahil iyon lang ang concrete evidence na nakita ko sa sarili kong mata versus sa sinasabi ng tao kung saan na naniniwala in the bible na si God Yahweh ay hindi nakikita ng mata at kusa lang nag exist si God Yahweh in the bible na there is no explaination kung saan siya nagmula versus uli sa mga tao na naniniwala na keyso si God Yahweh kuno ay walang panimula at wakas which is for me na mas mahirap siyang unawain kapag hindi siya nakikita ng mata. Kung baga faith lang ang paiiralin o sabihin natin na to believe is to see lang siya.

If tatanungin ay who created God? Ang isasagot ko malamang ay tao ang gumawa ng deity o tao ang gumawa ng God versus sa tao din na ang isasagot ay walang gumawa kay God dahil siya ang panimula at wakas. Dagdag na He is one and only true God.

6. Viral si Goddess Asherah dahil kahit sa world history ay nakalagay ang pangalan ni Goddess Asherah at patungkol kina Baal at God Yahweh at maraming iba pa na patungkol sa kanya.

Iyon lang.


 
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