Philippines need Communism to prosper

[Kaplok Kaplok]

I do not believe this.
Pero lets pretend na isa akong communist.
Just as a mental exercise to appreciate Democracy more.

Convince me na mali ako to think communism is what's needed.

 

[plhbg1]

kahit anong klaseng politika pasukin ng pinas kung walang pagbabago sa mindset ng bawat isa useless pa din

i don't want communism dahil ayaw kong pakainin/alagaan yung mga weak variants, they should get endangered/extinct to get more of the stronger ones

 

[Syenderr]

kahit anong klaseng politika pasukin ng pinas kung walang pagbabago sa mindset ng bawat isa useless pa din

i don't want communism dahil ayaw kong pakainin/alagaan yung mga weak variants, they should get endangered/extinct to get more of the stronger ones

the design is very elite

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

kahit anong klaseng politika pasukin ng pinas kung walang pagbabago sa mindset ng bawat isa useless pa din

i don't want communism dahil ayaw kong pakainin/alagaan yung mga weak variants, they should get endangered/extinct to get more of the stronger ones

Communism nga ang praan para pareho lahat ng Pilipino ng mindset. Then kung pantay pantay sila wala ng puwang sa iba pang mindset. At ung mindset na ito ay dedepende sa isang magaling na leader. Wala na botohan, so hnd na tayo maapektuhan ng mga desisyon ng mga medyo mahina sa pagiisip.
Sa Communism hnd ka mag aalaga ng "weak variant" na sinasabi mo. Bawat tao tatanggap ng sapat na Resources na ayon sa value ng resources na napproduce nya.
Sa madaling sabi, mas magiging productive ang mga tao. At kung lahat ay nagcocontribute ng same or more na resources compared sa nacoconsume nya hindi tayo kukulangin.

Nag assume ka ba na kasama ka sa stronger ones? Hindi kasi ikaw magdedesisyon nun kung ganun man ang sistema.

To add about mindset. Pwede gawin ung ginagawang control ng China sa information. To prevent mindset of Filipinos from getting corrupted.

 

[plhbg1]

Communism nga ang praan para pareho lahat ng Pilipino ng mindset. Then kung pantay pantay sila wala ng puwang sa iba pang mindset. At ung mindset na ito ay dedepende sa isang magaling na leader. Wala na botohan, so hnd na tayo maapektuhan ng mga desisyon ng mga medyo mahina sa pagiisip.
Sa Communism hnd ka mag aalaga ng "weak variant" na sinasabi mo. Bawat tao tatanggap ng sapat na Resources na ayon sa value ng resources na napproduce nya.
Sa madaling sabi, mas magiging productive ang mga tao. At kung lahat ay nagcocontribute ng same or more na resources compared sa nacoconsume nya hindi tayo kukulangin.

Nag assume ka ba na kasama ka sa stronger ones? Hindi kasi ikaw magdedesisyon nun kung ganun man ang sistema.

To add about mindset. Pwede gawin ung ginagawang control ng China sa information. To prevent mindset of Filipinos from getting corrupted.

nah it will be a good government but sadly i don't rely on government so wala ako benefit diyan, ang meron is damage to my own economy becuse i can no longer excel at yung pinaghirapan ko mapupunta lang sa mga losers, hihilahin ko sila just to level the social status thru government intervention

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

nah it will be a good government but sadly i don't rely on government so wala ako benefit diyan, ang meron is damage to my own economy becuse i can no longer excel at yung pinaghirapan ko mapupunta lang sa mga losers, hihilahin ko sila just to level the social status thru government intervention

Yan nmn ang sakit ng democracy at capitalism. Everyone desires to excel. It leads to corruption and creation of jobs na walang production, pero malaki ang income(CEO, landlords,etc). Kung tutuusin mas maraming parasite sa isang capitalist economy gaya ng pinas, at sila yung nasa taas ng economic scale.
Strategy yan ng capitalist society, na magalit ka sa mga tao na mas mababa sayo, pra hnd mo makita ung mga taong nageexploit sa pinaghirapan mo sa taas.

 

[plhbg1]

Yan nmn ang sakit ng democracy at capitalism. Everyone desires to excel. It leads to corruption and creation of jobs na walang production, pero malaki ang income(CEO, landlords,etc). Kung tutuusin mas maraming parasite sa isang capitalist economy gaya ng pinas, at sila yung nasa taas ng economic scale.
Strategy yan ng capitalist society, na magalit ka sa mga tao na mas mababa sayo, pra hnd mo makita ung mga taong nageexploit sa pinaghirapan mo sa taas.

but in the end if you did not become them it means you belong to the weaker side, i prefer competition talaga than dragging the incompetent ones up and waste my resources over them

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Ironically, kaya hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas dahil sa tulad mo. You only care about your own resources. U feel dragged by the people below you, dahil akala mo nasa taas ka. You dont even realize people above you think the same.
Syempre ikaw magrereklamo na walang kaunlaran, but you want to keep everything the same?

 

[plhbg1]

Ironically, kaya hindi umuunlad ang Pilipinas dahil sa tulad mo. You only care about your own resources. U feel dragged by the people below you, dahil akala mo nasa taas ka. You dont even realize people above you think the same.
Syempre ikaw magrereklamo na walang kaunlaran, but you want to keep everything the same?

di ko akala-in na mataas ako but i just don't do what the weak is doing (blaming government, asa kay government, criticizing the oligarchs, etc) so i thought it might be true that i'm not one of them hehe

i would say same government because if there is something that needs changing it would be the weaklings' mindset instead of the government

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Im sure yan din ang sasabihin ng iba. You are playing into the "freedom" illusion capitalism created for you. Hnd mo alam, habang busy ka nangangarap na maging elite class, ung mga current elite class gingawa nila bait ung kagustuhan mo para patuloy silang yumaman sa pinaghirapan mo. Yet, you blame the "weaker" class. You dont even realize na para sa mata ng iba weaker clas ka din.

If it was communism, there is no such thing as class. Everyone will contribute their work wether physical or mental. Selfishness is not a value the majority would hold.

 

[plhbg1]

Im sure yan din ang sasabihin ng iba. You are playing into the "freedom" illusion capitalism created for you. Hnd mo alam, habang busy ka nangangarap na maging elite class, ung mga current elite class gingawa nila bait ung kagustuhan mo para patuloy silang yumaman sa pinaghirapan mo. Yet, you blame the "weaker" class. You dont even realize na para sa mata ng iba weaker clas ka din.

weaker class man ako sa paningin ng iba as long as i don't do what they are doing it means what is hitting them is not hitting me, nakakakain talaga ako ng husto boss at ang problema ko lang talaga is yung safety ko sa labas na puno ng mga adik, so yang sabi mong pinaghirapan ko nasa kanila di ko naramdaman effects niyan e

If it was communism, there is no such thing as class. Everyone will contribute their work wether physical or mental. Selfishness is not a value the majority would hold.

yeah communism is for the weak kasi instant yaman e hehe parang nanalo sa lotto ba instant, we like instant, tamad tayo maghirap e

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Hindi ko alam kung ano punto mo sa hitting them and hitting me na yan.

So speaking of adik, hnd ba produkto yan ng capitalism? Dahil hnd control ng gobyerno ang means of production, may oras ang mga tao gumawa ng unecessary products like drugs.

Saan mo nakuha yung instant yaman about communism? Ano basis ng sinasabi mo? That idea only exist in capitalist society.

 

[plhbg1]

Hindi ko alam kung ano punto mo sa hitting them and hitting me na yan.

it's about how corruption is hitting them and me

So speaking of adik, hnd ba produkto yan ng capitalism? Dahil hnd control ng gobyerno ang means of production, may oras ang mga tao gumawa ng unecessary products like drugs.

it would mean there's no îllégâl drug case in north korea

Saan mo nakuha yung instant yaman about communism? Ano basis ng sinasabi mo? That idea only exist in capitalist society.

akala ko ba alam mo ang mangyayari sa mahihirap kapag naging communist na

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

it would mean there's no îllégâl drug case in north korea

Kung meron man case ng drugs sa north Korea, I would bet na nanggaling ito sa isang capitalist society. Plus i never claimed North Korea as a good communist implimentation.

So ang concern mo lang sa Communism ay dahil you have the impression na makukuha ng mahihirap ang pera mo?

Remind kita na ung thread na ito ginawa ko para convince mo ako na mali ako to think communism is better for the Philippines. Its not about your own personal morality. Good for you na hindi ka corrupt. But that is not the topic.

I dont think you are making a good impression for democracy or capitaltism

 

[plhbg1]

Kung meron man case ng drugs sa north Korea, I would bet na nanggaling ito sa isang capitalist society. Plus i never claimed North Korea as a good communist implimentation.

ehehe ayan na nawala na ang good implementation ng communism hehe

So ang concern mo lang sa Communism ay dahil you have the impression na makukuha ng mahihirap ang pera mo?

yes, i won't be rewarded sa paghihirap ko, both lazy and masipag will have same social status

Remind kita na ung thread na ito ginawa ko para convince mo ako na mali ako to think communism is better for the Philippines. Its not about your own personal morality. Good for you na hindi ka corrupt. But that is not the topic.

I dont think you are making a good impression for democracy or capitaltism

there is always room to fail, sabihin na lang nating i failed to convince you oh diba happy kana ayee

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

No, im not happy. If you read the first post, this is a sad situation. I am a pretending communist, and you fail to make a case. Believe me i wanted you to convinvce me.

All i gather is you are only concerned about your own good. You dont care about the state of your country as long as it doesnt affect you. You dont like equality if it means wala na mahirap.

Ayaw mo nakaka apekto sa buhay mo ung weak variants na puro sisi ng gobyerno, pero dahil nga sa democracy kaya sila may boses.

yes, i won't be rewarded sa paghihirap ko, both lazy and masipag will have same social status

Okay fair point dito. Let reflect, in the current system ng pilipinas, do you really think na rewarded ka according to your effort? Bakit mas mataas kita sayo ng manager mo? Mas mabigat ba trabaho nya kaysa sayo? Sa isang companya, mas napapagod ba ang CEO compared sa mga employee nya? Not to mention yung mga religious leaders.. but I'm sure they make a lot.
Sabi mo pang tamad ang Communism. Pero it is very obvious na in capitalism, everyone desires to, someday, work less for more. If that doesnt fit your description of "pang tamad", what will?

 

[plhbg1]

No, im not happy. If you read the first post, this is a sad situation. I am a pretending communist, and you fail to make a case. Believe me i wanted you to convinvce me.

which part of failing to convince you did you not understand?

All i gather is you are only concerned about your own good. You dont care about the state of your country as long as it doesnt affect you. You dont like equality if it means wala na mahirap.

it is because i prefer survival of the fittest boss, science guy ako e

Ayaw mo nakaka apekto sa buhay mo ung weak variants na puro sisi ng gobyerno, pero dahil nga sa democracy kaya sila may boses.

ganoon naman pala edi mas lalong i-retain natin ang democracy niyan

Okay fair point dito. Let reflect, in the current system ng pilipinas, do you really think na rewarded ka according to your effort? Bakit mas mataas kita sayo ng manager mo? Mas mabigat ba trabaho nya kaysa sayo? Sa isang companya, mas napapagod ba ang CEO compared sa mga employee nya?

it is because you are not CEO that's why you think it's easy

Not to mention yung mga religious leaders.. but I'm sure they make a lot.

ambilis iwasan ang religion hehe

Sabi mo pang tamad ang Communism. Pero it is very obvious na in capitalism, everyone desires to, someday, work less for more. If that doesnt fit your description of "pang tamad", what will?

i don't think tamad will not work hard for him to work less in the future hehe

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

which part of failing to convince you did you not understand?

When did I say dont understand? Ano? Ang sinasabi mo ba ayaw mo na? Say it straight if that is what you mean.

it is because i prefer survival of the fittest boss, science guy ako e

Ginawa na yan ni Hitler. Last time I checked hindi siya successful. Pinapatay nya ang mga religious, at weak. How do you think mangyayari sa Pinas pag ito ginawa.

it is because you are not CEO that's why you think it's easy

At saan mo nmn nakuha yan impormasyon n yan? Pano mo nasabi?
Anyway, Mahirap man ang pagiging CEO, hnd ito nagpproduce ng goods. Ginagamit lng nya ang pagod ng mga nasa ilalim nya at ang surplus o sobra diretso sa bulsa nya. Ung mga empleyado nya nauubos ang oras ng buhay nila, nangangarap nlng, pero ang sweldo sapat lng pra mabuhay para sa ngayon.

i don't think tamad will not work hard for him to work less in the future hehe

Paki elaborate.

 

[plhbg1]

When did I say dont understand? Ano? Ang sinasabi mo ba ayaw mo na? Say it straight if that is what you mean.

ehehe di mo nga sinabi pero bakit ka ulit magsasabing i did not convince you if i already said i failed at doing it?

Ginawa na yan ni Hitler. Last time I checked hindi siya successful. Pinapatay nya ang mga religious, at weak. How do you think mangyayari sa Pinas pag ito ginawa.

so what? siya iyon at ako ito hehe just because hitler did it doesn't mean bawal na magkaroon ng same preference with hitler hehe

At saan mo nmn nakuha yan impormasyon n yan? Pano mo nasabi?
Anyway, Mahirap man ang pagiging CEO, hnd ito nagpproduce ng goods. Ginagamit lng nya ang pagod ng mga nasa ilalim nya at ang surplus o sobra diretso sa bulsa nya. Ung mga empleyado nya nauubos ang oras ng buhay nila, nangangarap nlng, pero ang sweldo sapat lng pra mabuhay para sa ngayon.

ok lang din na magkaiba assessment natin sa isang CEO hehe

Paki elaborate.

do you think a lazy person will strive/work hard to make him work less in the future? do you think he will work for that target? sabi mo everyone desires to work less e so ngayon do you think a lazy person will strive hard to attain his desire to work less in the future?

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

ehehe di mo nga sinabi pero bakit ka ulit magsasabing i did not convince you if i already said i failed at doing it?

Ang sinasabi ko hindi ako masaya na dahil nagfail ka. Im disappointed. Its is a sad situation. San nanggaling ung reply mo?

so what? siya iyon at ako ito hehe just because hitler did it doesn't mean bawal na magkaroon ng same preference with hitler hehe

Wala ako tlga pakialam kung ano preference mo. The goal of the thread is, you make a convincing case, hnd lng para sakin kundi pati sa ibang makakabasa nito. Prove me wrong. (Fyi, Hitler is one of the most disgusting person but thats not the topic)
Kung hindi mo kaya then give up.

ok lang din na magkaiba assessment natin sa isang CEO hehe

Ang sabi ko San mo nakuha ang impormasyon na hindi ako CEO. Anyway hnd din yan ang topic. Ano ang assesment mo sa CEO to justify na mas malaki ang kinikita nya sa producer class? Natural magkaiba tayo. Kaya nga tayo nagdedebate dito diba?

do you think a lazy person will strive/work hard to make him work less in the future? do you think he will work for that target?

No. Hindi ko yan sinabi.