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wag nyo kami sapawan, nakikitang wala talaga kaming alam - Harry Roque
⬆ joke yan

MANILA, Philippines — Malacañang on Tuesday said a group of experts from universities should refrain from publicizing their recommendations on quarantine classifications in the country to avoid preempting government from making decisions.

The OCTA Research team had recently said the towns of Bauan in Batangas, Calbayog in Western Samar, and General Trias in Cavite should be reverted to a stricter quarantine status after an increase in its daily attack rate were recorded in the said areas.

Presidential spokesperson Harry Roque said at a briefing that while they appreciate the group's efforts in monitoring virus cases, it would be better for them to course their observations privately to the IATF.

"I have requested for them to desist from making recommendations on classifications as it is really the job of experts," he said in mixed Filipino and English. "I understand they have one or two epidemiologists but it's still not the same number of experts working with the IATF."

Roque said the provincial governments along with the regional IATF could make the said decision on the municipalities, as he responded to questions on the group's call.


But, he added that even the crisis panel dealing with the pandemic does not release to the public their recommendations before submitting to President Rodrigo Duterte, who Roque said makes the final call.

"They can probably endorse their recommendations privately to the IATF so that the panel is not preempted," he said.

The UP OCTA Research team began providing forecasts back in April, when the coutnry was still in hard lockdowns from the COVID-19. Experts from the University of Santo Tomas later on joined in the group.

They have also warned that easing quarantine measures in Metro Manila could see the country's total cases ballooning, which now stands at 342,816 as of October 13, with 6,332 deaths.

In June, Roque touted victory with his "Congratulations, Philippines" remarks over beating OCTA's projections that the Philippines will see 40,000 infections by end of the said month. It was, however, just short of about a few thousands from the 36,438 tally by end-June.

The government has long faced criticism for how it has put retired military officials instead of health experts in charge of its response to a pandemic in the country that has emerged to have the highest number of infections in Southeast Asia and among the world's Top 20 nations with highest cases.
 
The projections in NCR are shown in Figure 12. The blue bars show the projections using the current transmission rates under GCQ in NCR. This projects to 40,000 cases by end of July and more than 80,000 cases with 2,800 deaths by end of August. The green line shows the projection using a decreased transmission rate, similar to the values observed during MECQ in NCR. This projects to 36,000 cases by end of July and 56,000 by end of August with 1,900 total deaths. More importantly, the value of Rt will decrease to around 1.1 by end of July and close to 1 by end of August, which means that with sustained efforts, we will be close to flattening the curve. The third projection assumes an increased rate of transmission following a possible relaxation to MGCQ (Modified General Community Quarantine) in NCR. This projects to 45,000 cases by end of July and more than 120,000 cases by end of August with 4,000 deaths, while Rt will increase. In all scenarios, the effects of lifting the quarantine or relaxing the quarantine had a much larger impact over the long term.
Di mo naman ata alam mga data, kaya nalilito ka.

July 31, 2020
NCR total cases: 50,000+
GCQ

August 31
NCR total cases: 123,000+
MECQ at GCQ pa yan.

Kala ko ba laging tama?
 
[XX='Planet Galileo, c: 425527, m: 1011376'][/XX] akala ko 26,000 yung end of july. Jul 16, 2020 yung last update ng nakita ko. hirap rin pumasok sa doh website.
sabi ni researcher mag MECQ sila sa july, pero GCQ.
by august 4 na sila nag MECQ.
which means di nila sinunod ang recommendations.
bawiin ko na lang na sinunod nila ang recommendations.
 
[XX='Planet Galileo, c: 425527, m: 1011376'][/XX] pababa na rin yung case per week dahil sa mecq.
compare natin sa july 1 na GCQ sila at hindi MECQ.
bumaba na yung case per week after aug 13.
meaning walang nag bago sa intervention nila lol.

nagkamali ako sa sinabi kong sinunod nila, at 26,000 ang nakita kong current cases, nakakahiya.
walang nagbago, palpak rin pala yung promise nila, MECQ na lang sila sana tulad sa sinabi sa OCTA.
 
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herd immunity lang ata ang plano ng mga yan.
bakit makikinig sa mga experts kung pwede namang patihimikin ang masa.
 
He he. Hindi ko na uusisain yang OCTA Research vs. DOH/IATF issues. Masakit ngang tanggapin yung nangyayari ngayon mga klasmeyt. Kaunting tiis pa siguro. Kahit ECQ, MECQ, GCQ, MGCQ o yung "new normal" pa yung implement o i-rekomenda ng kahit na sinong eksperto/ahensya sa kahit anong lugar, nakapako pa rin tayo sa ating "loophole" ng pagpapatupad pangontra sa paglaganap ng sakit. Lockdowns are only temporary, and the inherent measures to be used during these times are the most important ingredients, or else it would just be a waste of time when it ends. Gaano man kalaki o handa na yung ating health infrastructure and services ngayon, yung tinatawag na effective "search, diagnosis and protective" efforts natin pa rin ang dapat na pagtuunan ng pansin at palawakin upang maging epektibo, dahil kung unsupportive naman ang ilan (intentionally or unintentionally) ay magiging hadlang ito sa paglaban sa paglaganap ng sakit. Kahit pa may darating ng vaccine/s ay hindi dapat tayong maging kumpiyansa sa panganib ng pandemya. Ang ibig kong sabihin, yung "overall response" ng lahat ng tao sa ating bansa ang isang factor kung bakit tayo humantong sa ganito, kasama na rin yung kahinaan ng ating mga awtoridad na nangangasiwa sa atin. Masyadong negatibo yung response ng gobyerno rito at di binigyan ng positibong hakbang kundi agresibong mga batas - especially, sa mga pasaway daw at may kakulangan sa pag-unawa ng COVID-19. Mahirap man patunayan ay may sense din ito ayon sa studies ng iba't ibang bansa. Ito yung ilan sa kanila.
Warning: medyo naka-nosebleed basahin he he.

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Mahahalata rin natin na medyo hindi "realtime" yung monitoring ng DOH by looking at the stats. Yung recoveries ngayon for almost 3 months ay "weekly" lang na "corrected" (taas-baba) at di natin alam kung binabantayan nga ang mga iyan using their so-called contact tracing and tracking, isolation and quarantine schemes. Paano pa yung wala sa kanilang actual records. This is mere speculation, so I still stand corrected. At least our "R naught" today is < 1.0, and we see some positive improvement on our case.
CONFIRMED
373,144

RECOVERED
328,602

DECEASED
7,053

ACTIVE CASES
37,489

CUMULATIVE UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS
4,382,690

CUMULATIVE SAMPLES TESTED
4,655,066

Ang gobyerno naman ay hindi aaminin yung kanilang pagkakamali, pero hindi naman ito nila maikakaila sa mga nakakaintindi. Kaya, gagalaw din yan in their own way. Eka nga, we have to accept the truth of our government's lapses and try to contribute to its losses to lift them up a bit. Don't just believe in what you read or hear, but instead verify first it's authenticity and truthfulness. Ang mga tao, susceptible dyan dahil sa tukso ng social media. (Kahit nga mga Senador ay nagmumukhang "t-a-n-g-a" dahil napapaniniwala rin - too many to mention.)

Yan dapat yung essence dahil we're all "ONE" in this fight. Every contribution, however big or small must be always taken into consideration, especially in these times of emergency. Di dapat tayo nawawalan ng "huling baraha" sa lahat ng oras.

....sa UP updated COVID-19 statistics dashboard pwedeng i-monitor ng ilan sa atin yung real-time records dito: You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. , or himay-mayin yung mga magugulong files dito ng DOH: bit . ly/DataDropArchives - remove the spaces .
 
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