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Kaya hindi ko masisisi yung mga taong hindi naniniwala sa Diyos. Ako aminado ako na nagbasa ako ng Bible at naniniwala ako sa Diyos pero hindi ako ultimately namumuhay sa eksaktong pamamaraan ng specific o certain religions mas lalo na no'ng nagbasa na ako. Hindi ako nagbabasa dati ng Bible although naniniwala ako sa Diyos pero dahil nga gusto kong maintindihan yung paniniwala ko pati na rin yung mga mahilig mag-quote ng verse, nagbasa ako.

Napagtanto kong marami ang selective lamang sa mga binabasa at binabahagi nila which I found wrong dahil may mga kwento naman talaga sa Bibliya na sa tingin ko talagang mali at wala akong balak i-justify kahit kailan. Ewan ko rin nga kung bakit ito tinatanggi at iniiwasan ng iba. Minsan, napapaisip tuloy ako kung nagbasa ba talaga sila o selective lang talaga sila pagdating sa mga binabasa nila.

Sana bukas ang isipan ng lahat sa mga ganitong usapin. Salamat sa magandang diskusyon, lods. Hahaha. :)
 
Isa rin ito sa kinakagigil ko noon. Hindi pa ako nagbabasa noon at gan'yan lagi ang sagutan/linyahan nila only to find out na mali naman pala ang mga sinasabi at justifications nila. Napagtanto ko ito no'ng nakapagbasa na ako. Mas lalo ko lang napatunayan na mali nga talaga sila. Hahaha.
 
Nakukuha ko ang punto mo. Tama naman kaso ang punto kasi sa kwentong ito ay problematic ang nangyari kasi hindi naman talaga "planado" yung pagpaparami na 'yon. Tulog si Lot (yung tatay) no'n kaya hindi tama ang nangyari. Nilasing siya eh. It was also rape kasi walang consent. Kahit saang anggulo tingnan ay mali 'yon.
 
jayendecastro,
Thanks for the Thread. Good job.

Most bible readers (specially newbies) usually gets excited, and they thought they have all the answers. But because of lack of deep diving from Scriptures and common sense, they just follow what their Pastor/Leader says. They removed their freedom to search on their own (even questioning their own doctrine), (see INC, ADD, JW, Mormons, 7th Day, etc).

my comment with Lot drunk with 2 daughters.
I agree on what you observed. Weird and wrong thing to do.
This is what they thought to be "right" on that moment.

Also, It is probably true that Lot was a God-fearing man to some extent, but he obviously was compromising his values and was being INFLUENCED by the sinfulness of the city of Sodom. In his compromised position, he sinned by offering his daughters.

II Peter 2 - "if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he RESCUED righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked"

This is how the Bible was written - wala tinatago kamalian ng bawa't isa.
So if you want to learn goodness, dapat ang pulutin ay mabuti.

Hope to hear from others, :)
 
Hindi naman Bibliya ang nagtatago ng mali nguni't ang mga tao. Yung ibang nagtuturo ang mistulang nagtatago ng mga kamaliang nangyari sa Bibliya. Parang iniiwasan nila kaya pili lamang ang madalas na nilalaman ng mga usapin nila. Gusto kasi ng iba na palabasin na lahat ng nangyayari sa Bibliya ay tama kahit hindi naman 'yon ang totoo. Tinama rin naman ang mga kamaliang ito sa Bibliya kaya sa tingin ko hindi naman talaga necessary na iwasan at itago pa ang mga usaping ito. Naniniwala ako na dapat patas lamang itong tinuturo at binibigyang diin. :)
 
Ito yung mga mismong nakasulat sa bible ang iniiwasan and being twisted ng mga christians. Gagawa ng kung anu-anong twisted explanations just to justify atrocities and injustices ordered or committed by their god.

Dapat makita ng tao ang isang bagay including ang bible for what they are. Now after recognizing the god's benevolent and malevolent actions towards man gaya ng nasusulat sa bible, is god good? Or he is both good and bad?
 
Hindi naman katulad ng panahon natin ung sa dati eh, satingin mo pano dumami ulit ung tao nung kay Noah
Do u use that same reasoning with every thing else in the bible or just for the stories like kay lot.

If for the sake of population growth fine. Rape and incest will technically add to the population. Iacknowledge ko yan .but can u acknowledge that those acts are also wrong or immoral?
 
jayendecastro,
Thanks for the Thread. Good job.

Most bible readers (specially newbies) usually gets excited, and they thought they have all the answers. But because of lack of deep diving from Scriptures and common sense, they just follow what their Pastor/Leader says. They removed their freedom to search on their own (even questioning their own doctrine), (see INC, ADD, JW, Mormons, 7th Day, etc).

my comment with Lot drunk with 2 daughters.
I agree on what you observed. Weird and wrong thing to do.
This is what they thought to be "right" on that moment.

Also, It is probably true that Lot was a God-fearing man to some extent, but he obviously was compromising his values and was being INFLUENCED by the sinfulness of the city of Sodom. In his compromised position, he sinned by offering his daughters.

II Peter 2 - "if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he RESCUED righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked"

This is how the Bible was written - wala tinatago kamalian ng bawa't isa.
So if you want to learn goodness, dapat ang pulutin ay mabuti.

Hope to hear from others, :)
Thanks for finally replying.. 😊

Here's the thing though, the thinking of something "being right at the moment" does not make it right at all doesnt it??

A god-fearing man living in a city of sin?? Well, thats on lot i guess...

And i agree na we can take some good stuff in the bible, just like i can take good stuff in any book...but you focused on the destruction of sodom and the rescue of lot and his daughters. My post was about what happend after that. So about the incident sa cave, incest and rape, wat mabuti ang mapupulot don?

Note: ctto sa reply mo, CARM yan right?
 
Ito yung mga mismong nakasulat sa bible ang iniiwasan and being twisted ng mga christians. Gagawa ng kung anu-anong twisted explanations just to justify atrocities and injustices ordered or committed by their god.

Dapat makita ng tao ang isang bagay including ang bible for what they are. Now after recognizing the god's benevolent and malevolent actions towards man gaya ng nasusulat sa bible, is god good? Or he is both good and bad?
True...but wat usually happens eh victim blaming eh....

Bout jan sa good and bad god...may topic ako na wanna madiscuss about it eh... Maybe gawan ko thread pag di na busy...heheh
 
you said --> wat mabuti ang mapupulot don?

Wala.
Additionaly, LAHAT ng maling ginawa ng Old Testament characters, hindi dapat tularan.
These true stories were written as transparent as possible (bad or good), so we can do better here in our time.

And wala na record what happen after that.
The New Testament writers were silent on Lot's whole story. But people can speculate.
Did u invite Yortz and Gentleman for your thread?
:)
 
Easy lang tayo mga paps. Lahat tayo walang alam o kasiguraduhan sa lahat. Iwasan po nating bumuo o makahanap ng kasamaan ng luob dito at okay lang po mag share pa ng mga stories, medyo pangit lang po mag sagutan na parang papuntang dina-down napo natin ang isat-isa. Unti-unting nawawala na yung sense of sharing and giving info sa thread po.
 
you said --> wat mabuti ang mapupulot don?

Wala.
Additionaly, LAHAT ng maling ginawa ng Old Testament characters, hindi dapat tularan.
These true stories were written as transparent as possible (bad or good), so we can do better here in our time.

And wala na record what happen after that.
The New Testament writers were silent on Lot's whole story. But people can speculate.
Did u invite Yortz and Gentleman for your thread?
:)
Good na u answred straight..so basically contradicts wat u said na " if you want to learn goodness, dapat ang pulutin ay mabuti" when that story in particular as u said din is "wala" nman mapupulot na maganda.

So were do u based ur reasoning na walang mapupulot na maganda sa kwento ni lot and his daughters?

And its easy to say na lahat ng maling ginawa eh di dapat tularan..but the problem sa ganyang thinking eh ibinibigay mo sa reader ang power to interpret it as right or wrong...calling that book as god's word or god's instruction to humanity will lead people with strong conviction sa faith nila to misinterpret some stories there.

Anyone can participate naman here sa thread, why do u specifically want them here?
 
Easy lang tayo mga paps. Lahat tayo walang alam o kasiguraduhan sa lahat. Iwasan po nating bumuo o makahanap ng kasamaan ng luob dito at okay lang po mag share pa ng mga stories, medyo pangit lang po mag sagutan na parang papuntang dina-down napo natin ang isat-isa. Unti-unting nawawala na yung sense of sharing and giving info sa thread po.
Wala nmng dinodown dito eh...discussion lang ng ilang stories sa bible na NSFW... Safe assumption here is nabasa ang bible or atleast aware sa mga stories na mabbrought up. Facts lang nman about the bible contents. And how it can be interpreted. Di nman lahat ng kwento sa bible eh feel-good stories lang...and thats the point of this thread.
 
Jayendcastro,

ituturo mo ba sa anak mo yung lahat ng MISTAKES?
Kung gusto mo pulutin ng anak mo yun, it's your free will.
Last answer ko na to sa topic about kay Lot (unless we go on circles.)
At least you believe the story as TRUE, and I salute u.
Hope others will participate ur nice thread.:giggle:
 
Hmm...meron pala to sa chatolic pano kaya kung basahin ko rin ang Qur'an
walang mali sa quran kung ikaw mismo babasa...pero kung sa YøùTùbé ka manonood tas sinearch mopa ay yung anti muslim vids,,panigurado sisiraan nila Quran...conektado kse lahat kaya wag basahin by verse...kse may maii misunderstood kadun...pinapasama kse ng most media ang Islam
 

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