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Handa na ba kayo? Russia-China vs. US-BRITAIN

Kumusta na. Panay yata YøùTùbé mo pre he he. KUNG sa issue ng kampihan sa gera klasmeyt, China and Russia could possibly join forces dahil may mutual relations ang dalawa plus their other allies for other reasons that may arise, pero dahil sa international treaties and agreements, UN at iba pang mga ahensya ay Malabo pa yang mangyari sa ngayon unless provoked. Wala namang pakialam yang China sa Ukraine-Russian conflict though both have harse relations with the US + allies na pakialamero din - acting as protector of international injustice. Longstanding war yang sa Ukraine kahit naging independent ang Sila noong 1991 ng bumagsak ang Soviet Union. Pero walang total control ang Ukraine dahil patuloy yung ρrø-Russian insurgency doon na backed din ng Russia politically and with military support. Kaya nga nagawa ng Russia na ma-annex muli yung Crimea noong 2014 at dahan-dahang i-pressure ang Ukraine thru this day. Since Ukraine which is close to Russia isn't yet a member of NATO, ayaw ni Putin na makuha ng NATO Sila ng European group dahil threat yon sa kanila at pinakikita Niya na di Siya titinag kahit kanino - still a superpower and Ukraine is theirs noon pa man as it was one of the founders of USSR before. Kung magkasundo Sila sa kung Anong dahilan ay OK, kung Hindi, gera nga kung ituloy yung invasion. Kawawa ang Ukraine dahil militarily ay weak Sila sa Russia at walang karapatan directly ang NATO at US allies na makialam except magpadala ng troops sa borders ng NATO member nations na katabi ng Ukraine on standby. UN lang ang makakatulong sa kanila thru negotiations only at alam yan ng lahat. Hanggang sanctions lang ang US legally, pero lately, nagbabala rin ang US na kung mag- invade ang Russia ay gagalaw na Sila. Mauuwi lang yan sa referendum kung di matuloy yung invasion, at kung ano man ang maging resulta nito. Yan yung nakikita Kong safest possibility plus other consequences on some parts of Ukraine. Still, Russia has the upper hand ano man ang mangyaril dahil internal conflict yan na nakabaon na thru history at maraming Russian settlers and supporters doon. Ang China, makikialam lang kung maapektuhan yung interest nila sa Asia.
wolf warrior diplomacy parin ng China, alam nila na kapag ayaw nan nag west sa kanila ma pipilay na sila at babagsak. yan yung alas nang NATO sanctions at trade wars. At saka common sense na ngayun na kung ano yung ginawa nang mga NAZI noon ay hindi epektibo na ngayun.

Siguro si Xi Jingping nanaginip pa sa ngayun, dinadalaw sya ni Chariman Mao at sinasabihan na ibalik nya yung glory days nang chinese revolution... pero sa huli gigising din yan sa katutuhanan.
 

China joins Russia in opposing Nato expansion​


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China has joined Russia in opposing further Nato expansion as the two countries move closer together in the face of Western pressure.
Moscow and Beijing issued a statement showcasing their agreement on a raft of issues during a visit by Russia's Vladimir Putin for the Winter Olympics.
Mr Putin claims Western powers are using the Nato defence alliance to undermine Russia.
It comes amid tensions over Ukraine, which he denies planning to invade.
Some 100,000 Russian troops remain at the border with Ukraine, which is a former Soviet republic. Mr Putin, who has written that Russians and Ukrainians are "one nation", has demanded that Ukraine be barred from joining Nato.
While the lengthy joint statement did not refer directly to Ukraine, the two countries accused Nato of espousing a Cold War ideology.

The talks, which the Kremlin said were "very warm", were held ahead of the Games opening ceremony. It was the first time the leaders have met face-to-face since the start of the pandemic.
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The two countries said they were "seriously concerned" about the Aukus security pact between the US, UK and Australia.
Announced last year, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. as part of efforts to boost security in the Asia-Pacific region. It is largely seen as an effort to counter China, which has been accused of raising tensions in disputed territories such as the South China Sea.
Meanwhile Russia said it supported Beijing's One China policy, which asserts that self-ruled Taiwan is a breakaway province that will eventually be part of China again.
However, Taiwan sees itself as an independent country, with its own constitution and democratically-elected leaders.
They had lunch, they had talks then they went off to see a show together - a big show.
Vladimir Putin is the star guest in Beijing for the start of the winter games. Of more significance to this visit is the increased co-operation and shared view of the world that Presidents Xi and Putin are keen to show.
Although Ukraine wasn't mentioned it was clearly hinted at when they both said they oppose the enlargement of the Nato alliance.
For China this is a delicate balance. Beijing has relations with Ukraine - political and economic. Any Russia invasion or military attack there could be damaging for President Xi's standing.
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Amid a growing war of words, the US on Wednesday accused Russia of planning to stage a fake Ukrainian attack that it would use to justify an invasion.
Russia denied it was planning to fabricate an attack, and the US did not provide evidence to support the claim.

Earlier the US said it was sending more troops to eastern Europe to support Nato allies. Russia said the move was "destructive" and showed that its concerns about Nato's eastward expansion were justified.
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Pag sumali NATO sa war sasali din yan sigurado tapos susunod si north korea attack sa south habang busy si NATO
 
Pag sumali NATO sa war sasali din yan sigurado tapos susunod si north korea attack sa south habang busy si NATO
walang reason para mag join sa war kasi nga di NATO member si Ukraine at defense organization si NATO kaya need pa na may aatakihin sa mga members before sila magka reason sumali
 
Kumusta na. Panay yata YøùTùbé mo pre he he. KUNG sa issue ng kampihan sa gera klasmeyt, China and Russia could possibly join forces dahil may mutual relations ang dalawa plus their other allies for other reasons that may arise, pero dahil sa international treaties and agreements, UN at iba pang mga ahensya ay Malabo pa yang mangyari sa ngayon unless provoked. Wala namang pakialam yang China sa Ukraine-Russian conflict though both have harse relations with the US + allies na pakialamero din - acting as protector of international injustice. Longstanding war yang sa Ukraine kahit naging independent ang Sila noong 1991 ng bumagsak ang Soviet Union. Pero walang total control ang Ukraine dahil patuloy yung ρrø-Russian insurgency doon na backed din ng Russia politically and with military support. Kaya nga nagawa ng Russia na ma-annex muli yung Crimea noong 2014 at dahan-dahang i-pressure ang Ukraine thru this day. Since Ukraine which is close to Russia isn't yet a member of NATO, ayaw ni Putin na makuha ng NATO Sila ng European group dahil threat yon sa kanila at pinakikita Niya na di Siya titinag kahit kanino - still a superpower and Ukraine is theirs noon pa man as it was one of the founders of USSR before. Kung magkasundo Sila sa kung Anong dahilan ay OK, kung Hindi, gera nga kung ituloy yung invasion. Kawawa ang Ukraine dahil militarily ay weak Sila sa Russia at walang karapatan directly ang NATO at US allies na makialam except magpadala ng troops sa borders ng NATO member nations na katabi ng Ukraine on standby. UN lang ang makakatulong sa kanila thru negotiations only at alam yan ng lahat. Hanggang sanctions lang ang US legally, pero lately, nagbabala rin ang US na kung mag- invade ang Russia ay gagalaw na Sila. Mauuwi lang yan sa referendum kung di matuloy yung invasion, at kung ano man ang maging resulta nito. Yan yung nakikita Kong safest possibility plus other consequences on some parts of Ukraine. Still, Russia has the upper hand ano man ang mangyaril dahil internal conflict yan na nakabaon na thru history at maraming Russian settlers and supporters doon. Ang China, makikialam lang kung maapektuhan yung interest nila sa Asia.

💚 Salamat classmate. Nagpaparinigan na Biden at Putin. sawsaw pa media. Dating sakop pala ng Russia yung Ukraine bakit pumapanig sa iba si Ukraine. Kakalungkot lang classmate 🥺👉👈 Dami namatay pandemic tapos magbabarilan lang sa away lupa.
 
I doubt na aabot tayo sa puntong ito. Kapag threat na ng Nuke ang nakataya, wala ng kikilos diyan para mag umpisa ng gulo.

Masyado rin kasi convoluted ang history ng Ukraine at Russia, pero ang hindi talaga makakaila ay ang pagka-closely -tied ng history ng dalawa dating back sa mga 12th century pa ata.

I don't think invasion talaga to but more likely control of key areas na critical sa Russia para may access sila sa Eastern Europe. I think it also acts as a message sa West , the US, US allies and NATO, in particular, na di na magto-tolerate ang Kremlin na ilalabas tenga nalang palagi ang kanilang mga demands. Di naman sana ito mangyayari kung di west-leaning ang party ngayon sa Ukraine at di sapilitang tinanggal noon si Yanukovych.
 
Tigilan nyo na kasi kakanood nyo sa YøùTùbé ng mga gyera nayan. mema icontent lang naman kasi ung mga nagyYøùTùbé, tapos kung ano anong armas pa na pinaka mapanganib pinagsasabi haha.
 
💚 Salamat classmate. Nagpaparinigan na Biden at Putin. sawsaw pa media. Dating sakop pala ng Russia yung Ukraine bakit pumapanig sa iba si Ukraine. Kakalungkot lang classmate 🥺👉👈 Dami namatay pandemic tapos magbabarilan lang sa away lupa.
Oo nga pre, modernong panahon na, pero makaluma pa Rin Yung utak ni Putin. Kalaunan Russia Rin Yung bibigay sa huli sa Dami Ng bansang di sang-ayon sa ginagawa nila in the long run. Isusuka Rin Siya Ng kababayan Niya kung patagalin Niya yan. Sa Dami at tagal Ng sanctions, maghihirap ang taumbayan Ng Russia. Buong Mundo Rin ay apektado kahit Tayo. Kapag sumali Yung China, damay Rin Sila. Sinong matinong bansa ang sasali sa gulong pinasok Ng Russia sa Ngayon? World war lang ang last resort nila, pero for what purpose? Pipigilan yan! Ang purpose Naman Ng superpowers ay to maximize their interests, only exercising military force as their tool for their purpose but not to initiate global war. Kalokohan yon tulad ni Hitler he he. Pero pwede Rin mangyari kung worst comes to worst. Pero dahil natuto na Ang Mundo sa WW1/WW2, peace talks will always be the proper step to resolve such problems especially at these times - rational thinking prevails.
 

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