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Abusive pastors. Hypocrite church leaders. Judgmental Bible study teachers. And yes, unfaithful Christian husbands. Name it---we have it! Ang Kristiyanismo ay punong-puno ng mga taong hindi perpekto. Nakaka-disappoint, yes. Nakakadismaya ang katotohanan na ito, pero hindi natin ito matatanggi.
Kung iisipin, kahit hindi natin tingnan ang kasalanan ng ating kapwa at mag-focus lang tayo sa sarili natin, dadating pa rin tayo sa parehong konklusyon. Christians are still sinners. Each of us sins differently than others, yet at the end of the day, we still sin. May iba umaamin. May iba nahuhuli. May iba magaling magtago. Pero lahat tayo nakakagawa pa rin ng kasalanan. John is right when he said, “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1 Jn 1:8).

But there is a greater truth than this.
And that is the fact that we have a perfect Christ.

Fortunately, the truth of Christianity is not dependent on each individual Christian, but on only one person, and that is Christ. He alone. Kung nakadepende pala ‘yon sa atin, matagal na siguro ‘tong wala. As Christians we are forgiven by faith, but it does not invalidate the fact that we remain sinners. And so, we need Christ just as much as unbelievers need Him. Buti na lang mayroon tayong perpektong Tagapagligtas na kayang tugunan ang ating matinding pangangailangan!
How do we respond to news regarding our fellow Christians committing serious sins?
There are many ways. Pero kung ako ang tatanungin, we should evaluate ourselves first. “So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall!” (1 Cor 10:12). Hindi dahil nadidismaya tayo sa nagawa ng iba, pwede na nating i-assume na never natin ‘yon magagawa. Be careful for we are still living in a fallen world. Also, these situations call us to be more loving, dahil lahat naman tayo makasalanan pa rin. We don’t tolerate any sin, for a genuine love hates evil (Rom 12:9). In the same way, we don’t tolerate any hate towards others, because that is not loving. “Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.” (Eph 4:32). If given a chance, correct him/her pero bilang kapatid, hindi bilang kaaway. “Don’t think of them as enemies, but warn them as you would a brother or sister.” (2 Thess 3:15). Syempre, kahit masyadong given na, we are to pray at all times, especially for our fellow Christians (Eph 6:18).
 
so yung mga christian noon na lumipat ng relihiyon dina sinner?

Sinner pa rin. Wala namang naging perfect. Ang point lang is that Christians even though have a high value on morals can still fall into sin. But di naman yan tino-tolerate, they can still be forgiven but reap the consequences of the action.
 
Would you follow Christ if you find out he was not perfect? Hypothetically..

In my worldview as an orthodox Christian. The reason I followed, and *worship Christ is because what He did claim was true that includes his perfection. If what he claims was false, then I would not follow Him.

*I put worship there just to emphasize what category Christ is to me. kasi marami naman tayong fina-follow in this world eh.
 
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naku pati pala yung hindi naniniwala are also being imposed of needing JC in their lives
 
naku pati pala yung hindi naniniwala are also being imposed of needing JC in their lives

From your point of view cguro it is "imposed". But to our view, it is part of our dogma and what we believe in. But di naman pinipilit.
 
In my worldview as an orthodox Christian. The reason I followed, and *worship Christ is because what He did claim was true that includes his perfection. If what he claims is false, then..........................​

Ahh. Oh my gosh 😁 Ang ibig sabihin na Orthodox Christian ka pala. Tipong nag coconform ka sa mismong nilalaman ng biblia and natural meron din literal interpretation. Dagdag pa na based on pagiging orthodoxy mo ay strict ka talaga sa pag adhere sa mismong nilalaman ng biblia mo at relihiyon na inaaniban mo. So traditional and conservative ka pala.

Hmmm. Outside religion ako and so ang mga orthodox Christian pala na if ever magkaka jowa ako ng ganyan klaseng tao , well , nakakatakot siya. Mabait at matino naman ang ganoon klaseng tao but nakakatakot na in a sense dahil strict siya sa pag adhere lahat ng nilalaman ng biblia at relihiyon and I have feeling na esusupress din niya malamang ang freedom of expression ko. And of course mataas ang standard niya when it comes sa paghahanap ng babae.

You know it is either ma hurt siya dahil ang expectation niya ay wala sa biblia dahil ako ay hindi naman nag aadhere mismo sa nilalaman ng biblia or it is either magkaroon siya ng negative judgment dahil hindi lang siya naaayon sa kagustuhan niya lalo na kung walang kilalaman sa biblia o sa relihiyon inaaniban mismo ang jowa niya.

Ganun tipo.

Iyon lang.

Orthodox Christian pala. E sino naman kaya na fundamentalist Christian na andito? Meron ba? Mas matindi iyon. Strict na strict talaga iyon na kahit kapwang Christian ata niya ay magiging kaaway na rin ata niya dahil sa sobrang masunurin siya sa kanyang relihiyon.​
 
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Ahh. Oh my gosh 😁 Ang ibig sabihin na Orthodox Christian ka pala. Tipong nag coconform ka sa mismong nilalaman ng biblia and natural meron din literal interpretation. Dagdag pa na based on pagiging orthodoxy mo ay strict ka talaga sa pag adhere sa mismong nilalaman ng biblia mo at relihiyon na inaaniban mo. So traditional and conservative ka pala.

Hmmm. Outside religion ako and so ang mga orthodox Christian pala na if ever magkaka jowa ako ng ganyan klaseng tao , well , nakakatakot siya. Mabait at matino naman ang ganoon klaseng tao but nakakatakot na in a sense dahil strict siya sa pag adhere lahat ng nilalaman ng biblia at relihiyon and I have feeling na esusupress din niya malamang ang freedom of expression ko. And of course mataas ang standard niya when it comes sa paghahanap ng babae.

You know it is either ma hurt siya dahil ang expectation niya ay wala sa biblia dahil ako ay hindi naman nag aadhere mismo sa nilalaman ng biblia or it is either magkaroon siya ng negative judgment dahil hindi lang siya naaayon sa kagustuhan niya lalo na kung walang kilalaman sa biblia o sa relihiyon inaaniban mismo ang jowa niya.

Ganun tipo.

Iyon lang.

Orthodox Christian pala. E sino naman kaya na fundamentalist Christian na andito? Meron ba? Mas matindi iyon. Strict na strict talaga iyon na kahit kapwang Christian ata niya ay magiging kaaway na rin ata niya dahil sa sobrang masunurin siya sa kanyang relihiyon.​

I commend your honest opinion. At na tumpak mo nga. But let me clear something. I observe only traditions that are in line with the bible kasi marami kasing traditions that has been pass from generations na not biblical in a sense that is contradicting ng scriptures.
To me kasi, conservatism only wants to preserve the values, ethics, philosophy, and culture that is working in the past. But progressive ako in modern development sa science & technology.

While we are strict in observing sa scriptures. Tao lang din kami, we don't feel superior over anybody. Di naman lahat na e fo-force yung belief nya sa partner nya. Anyway, if you will ever meet someone na orthodox try to be friends lang baka malay mo. ;)


May pinagkaiba ang Orthodoxy sa Fundamentalist. Majority sa mga fundamentalist are legalistic in nature they are living by the law. Ang mga orthodox naman are balance, they adhere to the scriptures but live by grace.
 

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