Batas sa Kalsada

[kimimaru23]

Question Lang sa madala.

bakit hindi nababago yung batas na kapag nkabangga ka, kahit hindi mo nmn kasalanan, eh ikaw pa din ang my kasalanan?
bukod sa na abala kna, ipapagamot mo pa at babayaran yung danyos ng nabangga kahit d mo kasalanan, worst pwd ka pang makulong.

halimbawa,
yung Biker na nsa National High way na tumawid kahit nka stop ang lane nila na padiretcho. eh nasalpok ng sasakyan na kakaliwa na galing blind spot dahil sa poste ng overpass. ang ending, babayaran nya pa yung bike, at ipapagamot pa yung nabangga?
sabi ng iba, dapat daw defensive driving, papano mo idedefend yung driving mo kung d mo makikita at mabubulaga ka na lang expecting na common sense stop sila pag red light?

 

[XxAccursedxX]

Hindi yan nagbago dahil hindi pa yan nakaka-abala sa mga politiko, bakit? may pork barrel ba dyan? diba wla. Kawawa nlang tlga mga middle-class dito sa pilipinas. Buti maging mahirap, dami pang benipisyo.

Biktima din tatay ko dyan. Nakatakas pa ang salarin, tumapon samin, ayun insta 700k.

Sarap ba maging hitman

 

[Away From Keyboard]

ganun talaga eh, ako kapag my bike sa paligid ko nag assume talaga ako agad na my maling gagawin ito. natutunan ko yan sa driving school sa ibang bansa.

 

[kimimaru23]

ganun talaga eh, ako kapag my bike sa paligid ko nag assume talaga ako agad na my maling gagawin ito. natutunan ko yan sa driving school sa ibang bansa.

ang prob kasi dito sa pilipinas, feeling entitled ang ibang cylist. yung mindset na "my bike lane naman" or "wala nmng violation" and worst sa lahat yung mindset na " sige try nyo ako banggain ng mkakuha kayo ng abala"
hindi sa nilalahat, pero susme npakarami.

 

[Away From Keyboard]

ang prob kasi dito sa pilipinas, feeling entitled ang ibang cylist. yung mindset na "my bike lane naman" or "wala nmng violation" and worst sa lahat yung mindset na " sige try nyo ako banggain ng mkakuha kayo ng abala"
hindi sa nilalahat, pero susme npakarami.

ah ok, alam ko na point mo. dapat magkaroon din nang mandatory seminar mga cyclist, for now wala pa ngang batas na pwede maging liable mga cyclist sa ano mang accident.

pansin ko rin madami na mga cyclist na walang alam sa batas trapiko, minsan kinakain pa nila yung buong lanes at nag chika chika.

 

[Stickness]

Pero kung kasanalan ng cyclist walang obligation yung may sasakyan. Moral obligation mo lang kung gusto mong magbayad sa hospital bill.

 

[makikitae]

Palagi kasing kung sino may malaking sasakyan yan palaging may maksalanan sa salpukan
Sa ibang bansa madami mga umaabuso sa ganito para makapaghuthot ng pera sa iba. Iwan ko lng dito sa pinas kung meron na din at kung marami na

 

[Away From Keyboard]

Palagi kasing kung sino may malaking sasakyan yan palaging may maksalanan sa salpukan
Sa ibang bansa madami mga umaabuso sa ganito para makapaghuthot ng pera sa iba. Iwan ko lng dito sa pinas kung meron na din at kung marami na

yes, alam yan nang mga truck drivers sa ibang bansa.. sila una sisihin kapag nagkaroon nang aksidente.

 

[kimimaru23]

Pero kung kasanalan ng cyclist walang obligation yung may sasakyan. Moral obligation mo lang kung gusto mong magbayad sa hospital bill.

hindi bro. by law, kahit kasalanan ng cyclist, pero nabanga mo sila. ikaw talga ang mgbabayad ng danyos at pagpapagamot pag nagcomplain ang nabangga. walang obligation yung nabangga mo kahit kasalanan nila na abonohan ka or bayaran ang nasira sayo.
hence the Bundol scheme.

 

[Stickness]

Hehe. Depende na siguro yan kung magpapasindak ang driver. Pag usapang to torts under article 2176 ng civil code at quasi-delict ng penal code, kung sino nagpabaya siya may kasalanan. Naganyan na ako dati motor. Kasalanan nung nakamotor may mga witness. Pinabayaran ko yung bumper. Assuming cyclista at hindi siya nag o serve, being a prudent, siya a cause ng disgrasyaz wala siyang karapatan humingi ng danyos gaya na paospital etc.

 

[plhbg1]

you were trusted as a professional driver the moment you receive your license

inflicting damage to anyone in any circumstance on the place where you are expected to be professional is not professional at all

 

[kimimaru23]

you were trusted as a professional driver the moment you receive your license

inflicting damage to anyone in any circumstance on the place where you are expected to be professional is not professional at all

Bruh. Assuming that you miss those who are not following the traffic rules, you mean to say its always the drivers responsibility to take the damage themselves?

 

[plhbg1]

Bruh. Assuming that you miss those who are not following the traffic rules, you mean to say its always the drivers responsibility to take the damage themselves?

of course because you are expected to be professional, those violators can be properly dealt with without them being dead or injured

just because the signal is green does not mean you can kill whoever is violating that signal

 

[Away From Keyboard]

ayaw talaga aminin nang mga pinoy, mahilig din talaga sila mag road rage.

 

[Stickness]

Magandang pag-usapan to. Based sa paglalahad ng paksa.

My blind spot meaning walang way para maka-preno agad. Mag-iiba ang situation kapag walang blind spot, meaning noticiable na andun siya sa highway kahit na naka-green or red sa cyclist, as a prudent man, a driver should give way.

If a person a has been given a privilege or a license to operate a vehicle as expected he/she is mandated to exercise diligence of a father of a good family and should obey all provisions under R.A. 4136 and other orders and IRR issued by DOT and LTO.

Proximate of cause of the accident is the cyclist's disregard on the traffic rules, signages, and even disregard of life and safety, hence, the driver is not liable for such damages.

Exception, last clear chance. If there is no impediment on the driver's eyesight that he noticed already that someone is crossing and still he pushthrough traversing [lack of diligence], then the driver is liable for damages and worst is being liable of criminal offense if not mediated, quasi-delict offenses.

Para fair naman doon sa mga defensive driver na kahit anong ingat, may mga magpapakamatay talaga daan dahil sa hirap at pagsubok na hindi makayanan.

Ibang usapan kapag common carrier, ito yung mga nagpapasada may prangkisa man o wala. Presumed at fault agad kapag may banggaan.

I rest my case, I am sleepy.

 

[Away From Keyboard]

Magandang pag-usapan to. Based sa paglalahad ng paksa.

My blind spot meaning walang way para maka-preno agad. Mag-iiba ang situation kapag walang blind spot, meaning noticiable na andun siya sa highway kahit na naka-green or red sa cyclist, as a prudent man, a driver should give way.

If a person a has been given a privilege or a license to operate a vehicle as expected he/she is mandated to exercise diligence of a father of a good family and should obey all provisions under R.A. 4136 and other orders and IRR issued by DOT and LTO.

Proximate of cause of the accident is the cyclist's disregard on the traffic rules, signages, and even disregard of life and safety, hence, the driver is not liable for such damages.

Exception, last clear chance. If there is no impediment on the driver's eyesight that he noticed already that someone is crossing and still he pushthrough traversing [lack of diligence], then the driver is liable for damages and worst is being liable of criminal offense if not mediated, quasi-delict offenses.

Para fair naman doon sa mga defensive driver na kahit anong ingat, may mga magpapakamatay talaga daan dahil sa hirap at pagsubok na hindi makayanan.

Ibang usapan kapag common carrier, ito yung mga nagpapasada may prangkisa man o wala. Presumed at fault agad kapag may banggaan.

I rest my case, I am sleepy.

good night

 

[kimimaru23]

of course because you are expected to be professional, those violators can be properly dealt with without them being dead or injured

just because the signal is green does not mean you can kill whoever is violating that signal

Papano yung mga large vehicles katulad ng 10wheelers na my dumaan sa harap na hindi nakita dahil hindi tlaga kita at nasagasaan nya. Bakit sila pa din nkukulong?

Ano opinion mo dito sir?

Meron pang isang accident sa sta mesa. Recently lang, mg asawang nkamotor, nadulas sila dahil overspeeding at basa ang kalsada, kumalso sila sa truck.
Nkulong yung truck driver.

 

[plhbg1]

Papano yung mga large vehicles katulad ng 10wheelers na my dumaan sa harap na hindi nakita dahil hindi tlaga kita at nasagasaan nya. Bakit sila pa din nkukulong?

Ano opinion mo dito sir?

Meron pang isang accident sa sta mesa. Recently lang, mg asawang nkamotor, nadulas sila dahil overspeeding at basa ang kalsada, kumalso sila sa truck.
Nkulong yung truck driver.

it does not change what is expected from you, your professionalism applies to all circumstances, failure to deliver what is expected from you is always on you

there's no such thing as special case where you cannot be professional in driving, if you don't know how to be professional when driving 10wheelers then you should not become a professional 10wheeler driver

 

[kimimaru23]

it does not change what is expected from you, your professionalism applies to all circumstances, failure to deliver what is expected from you is always on you

there's no such thing as special case where you cannot be professional in driving, if you don't k

if that's your opinion. Kawawa lang yung mga driver na nadamay dahil sa truck na minamaneho nila bumanga yung icompentent driving ng iba.
Goodluck

 

[plhbg1]

if that's your opinion. Kawawa lang yung mga driver na nadamay dahil sa truck na minamaneho nila bumanga yung icompentent driving ng iba.
Goodluck

sabi ko nga if hindi professional driver wag maging professional driver, instead of setting an exception why not focus on strict implementation on kung sino ba talaga ang professional drivers, ang nang yayari ngayon is binibigay pa rin ang professional driver's license sa mga hindi professional drivers kaya palagi sila nang hihingi ng exception sa batas kasi hindi naman talaga sila professional mag drive, naka tanggap lang iyan sila ng license