Chess Computerchess free softwares for learning, training, testing....and everything you need to know PART1

[alist1986]

Sa engine test ko,malaki nga pinagbabago ng engine kapag may book..,kaya siguro maraming nakakagusto ng chess computer tournament..parang science project na ang dating eh,labanan ng algorithm.

Sinabi mo pa. Parang ****** ng manok he he. másáráp noong araw ng kaunti pa lang yung nakakaalam ng malalakas na chess engines. Ang layo ni Rybka doon sa mga latest chess engines noon. Nilalampaso lang ni Rybka via laptop yung mga multi-processors/clusters ng mga Sheiks (na tila Deep Blue) sa chess tournaments he he. Ngayon, palakasan na lang ng hardware ang labanan he he dahil "open book" na yung source code ng the best computerches AI.
Sayang at di ako normal chess player kaya medyo mahina ang knowledge ko sa opening line theory. Ang alam ko lang ay yung pag-filter ng games, paggamit ng tools at utilities sa computerchess, pag-compile from open source, pag-test ng chess engines, at pagkuha ng source of information concerning this hobby. Dyan lang ako may alam bosing.

 

[alist1986]

@tolyakarpov. Pre, meron bagong RodentIV for android + personalities (including Tal na hanap mo).
Check mo dito sa forum yung infos:
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Nandito yung source at ibang files, including the official personality files to make it work.
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Di ako android user kaya bahala ka na sa huli.
Mag-umpisa akong balikan yung opening book making para mahasa ulit he he.

 

[tolyakarpov]

@tolyakarpov. Pre, meron bagong RodentIV for android + personalities (including Tal na hanap mo).
Check mo dito sa forum yung infos:
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Di ako android user kaya bahala ka na sa huli.
Mag-umpisa akong balikan yung opening book making para mahasa ulit he he.

Magaling din yung komodo 10.,solid na umaatake,..next month sisimulan ko na engine tournament ko sa android,bale ipapa-move ko yung opening system na naimbento at titingnan ko kung ano ang moves ng engine,baka may novelty akong madiskubre.

 

[tolyakarpov]

Sinabi mo pa. Parang ****** ng manok he he. másáráp noong araw ng kaunti pa lang yung nakakaalam ng malalakas na chess engines. Ang layo ni Rybka doon sa mga latest chess engines noon. Nilalampaso lang ni Rybka via laptop yung mga multi-processors/clusters ng mga Sheiks (na tila Deep Blue) sa chess tournaments he he. Ngayon, palakasan na lang ng hardware ang labanan he he dahil "open book" na yung source code ng the best computerches AI.
Sayang at di ako normal chess player kaya medyo mahina ang knowledge ko sa opening line theory. Ang alam ko lang ay yung pag-filter ng games, paggamit ng tools at utilities sa computerchess, pag-compile from open source, pag-test ng chess engines, at pagkuha ng source of information concerning this hobby. Dyan lang ako may alam bosing.

Yung project na ginagawa ko now ay tungkol sa chess opening na pwedeng gamitin sa white at black.,napansin ko kasi na need mong mag aral ng napakaraming opening kung lalaban ka ng tournament..kaya naisip ko na gumawa ng universal opening na pwede sa black at white..so isang opening na lang ang gagamitin.Sinubukan ko siya sa mga online chess sa 5 minutes at nakaabot naman ako ng 2200 na elo sa chessdotcom at lil chess ..kaya masasabi ko na pwede itong maging weapon.Tapos gagamitin ko sa chess engine na ito lang ititira nila para makadiscover pa ako ng ibang moves..baka sa wattpad ko ilabas yung chess book para free sa lahat.

 

[alist1986]

Yung project na ginagawa ko now ay tungkol sa chess opening na pwedeng gamitin sa white at black.,napansin ko kasi na need mong mag aral ng napakaraming opening kung lalaban ka ng tournament..kaya naisip ko na gumawa ng universal opening na pwede sa black at white..so isang opening na lang ang gagamitin.Sinubukan ko siya sa mga online chess sa 5 minutes at nakaabot naman ako ng 2200 na elo sa chessdotcom at lil chess ..kaya masasabi ko na pwede itong maging weapon.Tapos gagamitin ko sa chess engine na ito lang ititira nila para makadiscover pa ako ng ibang moves..baka sa wattpad ko ilabas yung chess book para free sa lahat.

Naintindihan ko yung ibig mong sabihin. Congrats pre! Buti ka pa, nakakalaro ng above 2000 elo. Ang best kong naabot noong bata-bata pa ako ay ay 1800 lang he he. Di pa uso noon ang computers at Apple pa lang yung "in" ng panahon ko. Talagang mausisa yung pag-create ng sarili mong opening winning lines for W/B. Madali sa W pero sa B ay maliit yung percentage for the win, the rest is drawish base sa stats ng mga engine matches using a neutral tournament book. Iba nga yung preparation kapag human players na he he. Chess opening repertoire ang kailangan mo nga dyan. Ako kasi, sanay lang sa "prep" para sa engine vs engine. Since di ako familiar sa ECO lines ng chess, doon ako sa game stats nag-base ng opening lines kung gagawa ako ng opening book for a specific tournament. Unless may special Gambit Lines na makita akong compatible sa engine na gagamitin ko, say sa Stockfish, I'll run a couple of test suites with deep analysis, ponder "on", auto-annotate, then review...Millions (to billion) na game database ang kailangan din dyan.
For example, here:
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Assuming may strong database of games na akong nakuha with enough positions, i-filter ko pa yan gamit yung stats ng, say the links sa taas. At least alam ko na yung best choices for W and B, and less drawish din - yung latter ay di masyadong importante dahil kailangan din yon. Usually, mga 40 plies (20 moves) book is enough for a start. Tapos salang ko ulit sa engine for final analysis. Base opening book pa lang yan. Kukuha naman ako ng Correspondence games or assorted quality games (TWIC, ICOFY, lichess etc.) para may variety, and repeat the sequence. Finally, ilalaban ko yang opening book sa Top latest opening books. Trial and error muna. Then repeat the sequence again with some improvements. Dyan yung manu-mano, adding specific lines with book tuning. Marami pa siguro akong dapat gawin to make it perfect. Napakaraming tools na gagamtin din dyan he he at medyo mataas ang HW requirements kung malaking opening book yung gagawin. Ewan ko kung makagawa pa ulit ako ng magaling na opening book, Dekada na kasi akong nawala sa computer chess. Malakas kasi sa kuryente yang hobby na yan at lampas na sa daliri ko yung nasira kong pc he he. 'Ala ng pambili.
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[tolyakarpov]

Naintindihan ko yung ibig mong sabihin. Congrats pre! Buti ka pa, nakakalaro ng above 2000 elo. Ang best kong naabot noong bata-bata pa ako ay ay 1800 lang he he. Di pa uso noon ang computers at Apple pa lang yung "in" ng panahon ko. Talagang mausisa yung pag-create ng sarili mong opening winning lines for W/B. Madali sa W pero sa B ay maliit yung percentage for the win, the rest is drawish base sa stats ng mga engine matches using a neutral tournament book. Iba nga yung preparation kapag human players na he he. Chess opening repertoire ang kailangan mo nga dyan. Ako kasi, sanay lang sa "prep" para sa engine vs engine. Since di ako familiar sa ECO lines ng chess, doon ako sa game stats nag-base ng opening lines kung gagawa ako ng opening book for a specific tournament. Unless may special Gambit Lines na makita akong compatible sa engine na gagamitin ko, say sa Stockfish, I'll run a couple of test suites with deep analysis, ponder "on", auto-annotate, then review...Millions (to billion) na game database ang kailangan din dyan.
For example, here:
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Assuming may strong database of games na akong nakuha with enough positions, i-filter ko pa yan gamit yung stats ng, say the links sa taas. At least alam ko na yung best choices for W and B, and less drawish din - yung latter ay di masyadong importante dahil kailangan din yon. Usually, mga 40 plies (20 moves) book is enough for a start. Tapos salang ko ulit sa engine for final analysis. Base opening book pa lang yan. Kukuha naman ako ng Correspondence games or assorted quality games (TWIC, ICOFY, lichess etc.) para may variety, and repeat the sequence. Finally, ilalaban ko yang opening book sa Top latest opening books. Trial and error muna. Then repeat the sequence again with some improvements. Dyan yung manu-mano, adding specific lines with book tuning. Marami pa siguro akong dapat gawin to make it perfect. Napakaraming tools na gagamtin din dyan he he at medyo mataas ang HW requirements kung malaking opening book yung gagawin. Ewan ko kung makagawa pa ulit ako ng magaling na opening book, Dekada na kasi akong nawala sa computer chess. Malakas kasi sa kuryente yang hobby na yan at lampas na sa daliri ko yung nasira kong pc he he. 'Ala ng pambili.
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Totoo iniisip ko pa lang yung trabaho...parang imposible..baka taon bago ako makatapos ng ilang lines ng move sa opening pa lang..problema wala din data base ng master dahil larong kanto yung moves..so gagawa ako ng sarili kong data gamit ang computer engine..

 

[alist1986]

Hindi imposible yan bro. Mas maganda rin na meron kang kasamang chess coach man lang na parehas mo o higit pa. Pwede rin namang walang database kung gagamit ka ng best chess engine na 3800 elo he he unless gusto mong malaman kung gaano kadalas gamitin ang moves na yan ng mga grandmasters. Pero best rin is use your brains while seeking help from a computer and database. Umpisahan mo sa mga custom epd positions tapos pa-analyze+annotate mo na lang sa GUI_engine mo yung preferred mong opening lines with multi-pv (multiple variation). Tapos manu-mano na lang sa consecutive line and variations hanggang makuha mo yung gusto mong set best moves base sa evaluation scores (in centipawns). Fritz+Chessbase ang recommended tools for professionals at commercial softwares mga yan. Sa android ay di ko alam at di ako gumagamit nyan unless needed thru emulators.
Ito yung example using openmaster databases sa Fritz:
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Sabihan mo lang ako kung ano ang kailangan mo para maihanda kita ng files. Sabi mo kasi android ang gamit mo di kita masyadong matutulungan. Pero basta pc, "anything you need" ay kaya kong i-supply. Bumalik na ako sa old chess forum ko at mga buhay pa yung kumpare ko doon kahit uugud-ugod na he he.
For Fritz or Chessbase, ito yung latest mega-database 2020 (in cbv format):

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May updates pa yan kasunod kung kailangan mo pa.

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Bigyan mo ako ng opening repertoire na hinahanap mo at baka matulungan kita riyan.
Baka sakali, may mabasa ka rito na ok sa hinahanap mo:

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Pre, ito yung bagong Komodo 13.1.1 for Android

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[tolyakarpov]

Hindi imposible yan bro. Mas maganda rin na meron kang kasamang chess coach man lang na parehas mo o higit pa. Pwede rin namang walang database kung gagamit ka ng best chess engine na 3800 elo he he unless gusto mong malaman kung gaano kadalas gamitin ang moves na yan ng mga grandmasters. Pero best rin is use your brains while seeking help from a computer and database. Umpisahan mo sa mga custom epd positions tapos pa-analyze+annotate mo na lang sa GUI_engine mo yung preferred mong opening lines with multi-pv (multiple variation). Tapos manu-mano na lang sa consecutive line and variations hanggang makuha mo yung gusto mong set best moves base sa evaluation scores (in centipawns). Fritz+Chessbase ang recommended tools for professionals at commercial softwares mga yan. Sa android ay di ko alam at di ako gumagamit nyan unless needed thru emulators.
Ito yung example using openmaster databases sa Fritz:
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Sabihan mo lang ako kung ano ang kailangan mo para maihanda kita ng files. Sabi mo kasi android ang gamit mo di kita masyadong matutulungan. Pero basta pc, "anything you need" ay kaya kong i-supply. Bumalik na ako sa old chess forum ko at mga buhay pa yung kumpare ko doon kahit uugud-ugod na he he.
For Fritz or Chessbase, ito yung latest mega-database 2020 (in cbv format):
May updates pa yan kasunod kung kailangan mo pa.
Bigyan mo ako ng opening repertoire na hinahanap mo at baka matulungan kita riyan.
Baka sakali, may mabasa ka rito na ok sa hinahanap mo:
Pre, ito yung bagong Komodo 13.1.1 for Android

Salamat ng madami...magagamit ko rin ito kapag nagka pc ako.

 

[highvolt]

Yan na ba yung tinatawag na powerbook? Madalas ko kc marinig kay IM Nava yan sa mga yt videos nya

 

[alist1986]

Yan na ba yung tinatawag na powerbook? Madalas ko kc marinig kay IM Nava yan sa mga yt videos nya

Similar lang po yan sa standard format na PGN (for chess games) na gamit. You just need to convert it. Kapag Mega-Database ay halu-halo yan na malaking game archives. Yung term na "Powerbook" ay "special editions" na mostly maririnig sa mga users ng Fritz GUI or even Cheebase GUI dahil yan yung exclusive opening book database ng chess engine nila na FRITZ or other "Chessbase" engines which can only be used on those GUI. Usually, CBV format ang gamit nyan for the database, but some modify them to opening books in CTG format.
Ang mga examples ay andito:
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Commercial databases din po yan.

 

[highvolt]

Maraming salamat dito boss, dami ko natutunan..

 

[alist1986]

Salamat ng madami...magagamit ko rin ito kapag nagka pc ako.

Pre, kung android ang gamit mo, pwede rin itong databases sources dito. High quality mga yan.
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PGN format ang gamit kaya madaling i-process.
Bigyan mo ako ng eco lines para malaman ko yung repertoire mo. Sanay ako sa pgn processing at may naipon na akong close to billion of games he he. Mamimili na lang ako dyan for filtering and re-analyzing. Ikaw na bahala sa huli after checking.

 

[alist1986]

Maraming salamat dito boss, dami ko natutunan..

Sabihan nyo lang ako kung ano kailangan ninyo, baka sakaling makahanap ako ng "direct" link para sa inyo. though retired na ako sa computerchess, may contacts pa rin ako sa dati kong forums. Might help in some ways doon sa walang access.

 

[highvolt]

Boss parequest ng opening, 1.f4 or bird opening dutch attack

 

[alist1986]

bird opening dutch attack

Ito yung infos para sa f4. Bahala ka na kung papaano mo buksan yung files:

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Ito yung best I could get pre sa You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., mag-member ka muna sa baba bago mo ma-download:
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Kailangan ay may Chessbase GUI ka or even Fritz. Sa PGN ay marami namang free dyan like Arena GUI. I'm sure aware ka na rito dahil hilig mo ito. The rest may include a PDF or document material. Goodluck!

 

[highvolt]

Maraming salamat boss.

 

[alist1986]

Maraming salamat boss.

Walang anuman bosing. Just to have a quick view of the files, using Windows, download this minimalist versions - repack/portable. Masyadong malaki kasi yung original na commercial packs.

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[highvolt]

Malaking tulong to boss... Salamat sa support nyo ni tolyakarpov.

 

[alist1986]

Malaking tulong to boss... Salamat sa support nyo ni tolyakarpov.

He he. Di mo na kailangan bosing magpasalamat. "Spread the word" mo na lang yung hobby na ito using manual or computers. The best brain training ang chess and other board games like its variants, go, chinese chess, checkers, othello and the rest. Magandang pag-aralan talaga yung opening theory na nag-umpisa sa mga chess masters. Pero sa akin, nabago na yan ng mag-accelerate na yung development ng chess AI. Sa tamang pagpili ng ECO lines na lang nagkakatalo na. May anti-human at may anti-chessAI, pero malalim na itong pag-aralan. Sa human players, it all depends on his preparation against his opponent.
Sa latest tests ay halos "chess is solved na" sa galing ng chess engines ngayon using this 8 x 8 board. The white player always has a +60% chance of winning or a draw assuming he follows the standard opening lines with this statistics, a collection of perfect lines and move theory. Black will only hope for a draw most of the time using this scheme. For humans, they only choose according to what their brains reach on their limited time to make each move, kaya parating may range of errors kahit pa sa best move. Historical chess games by the best human players up to now are just way lower than what the chess AI nowadays are doing. It's only a study, pero close to the truth na yan. But best is just to enjoy the games' advantage to us.

 

[tolyakarpov]

Yan na ba yung tinatawag na powerbook? Madalas ko kc marinig kay IM Nava yan sa mga yt videos nya

Book ito sa computer chess engine para iyon ang gagamitin niya sa chess opening.Halimbawa mahilig ka sa sicillian defense...gagamit ka book engine about sicillian para ito palagi ang tinitira ng chess computer